Was there more equality back then or now between men and women?

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Yes, scientifically speaking we are all homo sapiens with no real discernible differences. Now, back to reality race does exist as a social construct today.

The natural order is for woman to follow man. It's no racial order in who people will follow.
 

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Human history and life. Women will follow a weak man before a strong woman.
Hmmm, and throughout human history and life have not certain races been subjugated and forced to be led by other races?
 

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Hmmm, and throughout human history and life have not certain races been subjugated and forced to be led by other races?

Yes but you don't have to force women to want to follow men.
It's something that is natural.
 

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civil rights wise, women are pretty much equal, except for the pay gap, especially for black women

Black women have approximately equal civil rights in most black countries, which is where most black women reside.

socially, women are only equal to other women
women only have "power" over men because of the desire of men to fulfill romantic/sexual urges
I don't think that power really is worth much because only attractive women can exploit it and only by exploiting men
it doesn't have the same weight as, say, a white mans power, who can exploit women, lower class men and minorites :wow:

Interesting and nuanced post. I agree.
 
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Black women have approximately equal civil rights in most black countries, which is where most black women reside.
I mean the wage gap affects black women more, I think black women have rights (except for those places with female circumcision. If the women had rights/were making the decisions, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be happening)
 

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The natural order, eh? If things as they are now are the supposed natural order then I guess you agree with the racial boundaries of this society.

It is no more natural to be subjugated by another race as it is to lose a war against another race. That stuff happens but it's not an intractable fact like women being weaker than men is. Also, races aren't "led" by other races. Cacs do not "lead" Natives nor did they "lead" the Asians. Going back to the question of women, they basically follow whichever man is in charge and when that order changes, the women merely follow. Only men can take true leadership. This has been the case since the dawn of human history.
 

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I mean the wage gap affects black women more, I think black women have rights (except for those places with female circumcision. If the women had rights/were making the decisions, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be happening)

There is a wage gap everywhere and I don't have any evidence the wage gap is worse in black countries than anywhere else on average. In some places, women can't even work, so those places would naturally have a higher wage gap, meaning black women at large have a lower one.
 

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You defined something natural as seen throughout human

You asked me how I came up with my views I said human history and life.
You're trying to compare race with gender roles and it just does not work like that.
 

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women have tamed 99% of mankind

these domesticated house pets will do anything just to sniff the panties
they pay rent
they sponsor shopping sprees dinners spa days and vacays

meanwhile she's fantasizing about the type of nikka she swears ain't no good
and creeping to get dug out by those wolves:blessed::lolbron:*
 
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There is a wage gap everywhere and I don't have any evidence the wage gap is worse in black countries than anywhere else on average. In some places, women can't even work, so those places would naturally have a higher wage gap, meaning black women at large have a lower one.
Does the Caribbean count? I just found this on google
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Abstract:

This paper analyzes gender earnings gaps in Barbados and Jamaica, using a matching comparisons approach. In both countries, as in most of the Caribbean region, females’ educational achievement is higher than that of males. Nonetheless, males` earnings surpass those of their female peers. Depending on the set of control characteristics, males’ earnings surpass those of females by between 14 and 27 percent of average females’ wages in Barbados, and between 8 and 17 percent of average females’ wages in Jamaica. In the former, the highest earnings gaps are found among low-income workers. Results from both countries confirm a finding that has been recurrent with this matching approach: the complete elimination of gender occupational segregation in labor markets would increase rather than reduce gender earnings gaps. The evidence is mixed regarding segregation by economic sectors. Occupational experience, in the case of Barbados, and job tenure, in the case of Jamaica, help to explain existing gender earnings gaps"
 
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