Watching Alicia Keys destroy John legend in the Verzus battle tonight made me realize something

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I’ve never met a black woman that did not like Baby Boy, it’s literally one of my favorite Beyonce songs ever.
It also was the #1 song in the country for 9 consecutive weeks. So yeah, I’m standing by my original post.
We'll agree to disagree:hubie:


your 29+ years old:pachaha:
 

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Its making me realize how far ahead of the competition Beyonce was during the 00’s. Alicia was considered the cream of the crop and is destroying John with her songs. Imagine if Beyonce was doing this versus. It’ll be a massacre like we’ve never seen before
:wow:

Beyonce catalogue is garbage.
Even Alica would show her flames.
She has very few standout songs. Beyonce is very immature from the choice of music she likes to make. Alicia makes grown up music, Bey likes teeny hood hopper pop music :picard:
 

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I’m not but ok.
seriously it's a good song but I absolutely would not call it a classic. call me a harsh critic, but I stand by that statement

edit: different experiences. but I heard girls choosing alicia keys songs to sing in talent shows during grade school not beyonce. obviously they were different lanes but to my memory for a solid 3-5 year period they were on the same level. alicia's first two albums are regarded highly, and no one can take that from her:usure:
 
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Personally I prefer Alicia, but cats acting like Beyonce not in the discussion are tripping. Her superstardom gets her a seat at the table alone, some of you younger cats don't realize that everybody didn't like Mariah, either...

Beyonce's strength to me is her performance acumen, she's an elite performer. She can really blow too, my issue is alot of her music lacks substance compared to Alicia (though not compared to most other people)...

The last 20 years, notwithstanding successful comeback runs by Mariah, Mary, and Janet, who are all of a previous era in general, have been run by Bey, Alicia, and Rihanna. Those are our biggest black singers and you can make an argument for either of the three...

Being this is Versuz you gotta look at the charts...

•As a soloist Bey has 6 #1's, 28 Top 40 hits, and 38 Hot 100 entries. She's also been featured on 6 Top 40 hits, 1 #1, and 9 Hot 100 tracks...

If you're gonna add her legend work with DC, that's 4 more #1's and 13 more Top 40/Hot 100 spots. Her catalogue is deep enough to run with anybody, the question with Bey is always quality or quantity...

•by comparison Alicia only has 3 #1 records, 13 Top 40, and 22 Hot 100's. Her features list includes 1 #1, 3 Top 40, and 5 Hot 100 chartings...

It's obvious from the surface Alicia doesn't have Bey's popularity, the question is whether her quality of work is superior. Which, I think so, but then it's a good point that alot of her best work was well over a decade ago, while Bey has put out more strong material in the recent decade...

•just for the fukk of it, I think Rihanna is the only other '00s baby that has a seat at the Alicia/Bey table. She has 7 #1's, 36 Top 40 songs, and 44 Hot 100 spots. Her features include 3 #1's and 15 Top 40/Hot 100 joints. You can make the argument she's more popular than Bey, which is what gives her a seat at the table...

Beyonce is cool. She's not as trash as cats on here say. But I don't find her work to be as resounding as the machine tried to make her, they tried to make her the new Janet and they came close, but I don't think her work quite reached that level. Her popularity pretty much did, though...
 

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Hold on. Let’s get some facts. Whilst I’m not a fan of Beyoncé’s music, I can recognize her talent as a singer and performer. Ashanti shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath as her. The only time she released music was when Beyoncé was taking a break. :mjlol:

Getting back to Alicia Keys... is her voice as good as Beyoncé’s! No. Are her performances as memorable as her? Absolutely not. No one can deny Beyoncé’s star power and stage presence.

Having said that? Her music is absolute trash. Janet Jackson, Alicia Keys, TLC etc, their music has reached a wide demographic because their songs are well written, span many topics and are just damn good songs.

Im embarrassed when I see a near 40 year old Beyoncé singing her songs. I’m sure she does too thinking “I’m too old to be singing this chicken head shyt :snoop:

Over two decades in the game and she has never shown growth artistically, even with the plethora of song writers. You can see Growth with artists like Prince from “For You” to “Love Sexy.” With Michael from “Off The Wall” to “HIStory”. Hell, even George Michael with his pop hits with WHAM! To his more mature albums like “Older” and “Patience.”

I tried to give Beyoncé a chance, but can you really say she’s matured as an artist? Her music follows the same basic formula that appeals to fags and hood rats. That’s why they get so defensive when we don’t fawn over her like we do.
 

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I'd rather listen to Ashanti than Beyonce. Beyonce relies heavily on 'visuals'.

Murder Inc truly blessed her with great production and arrangement. Not a great singer but she had jams atop of other jams. She had a great run.
 

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This thread made me realize Alicia is on a different level musically but it doesn’t seem like she’s recognized as much as she should be.

Yep.
Keys first like three albums are way better than anything Beyonce has done but since her star has faded in a big way, people are bagging on her.

Keep on falling.
Don't know my name.
If i ain't got you.
Karma.
No one.
Teenage love affair.
A woman's worth.
Unthinkable.
Never see me again.
How come you don't call me.
Empire state.
Try sleep with a broken heart.
My boo.
Put it in a love song.
Superwoman.
Etc

At one point, she could do no wrong. Internet has a short memory tho.
 
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