We Are Hebrews, Egyptians, and Original Native Americans. Overstand, Understand Imhotep

[Kingofthereal]

The thing is: black Americans do have a culture. It ultimately doesn't matter who we were when we got here because we did something that few people have done:
Create a brand new culture despite attempts at destroying the previous culture.

The history of the world is a history of migration. The Egyptians migrated from what is currently Ethiopia and Somalia to create their own thing in northern Africa. Vikings migrated from Scandinavia to England, France, Germany and Russia. Afghanistan is a mix of East, South, and west Asian culture. Without black Americans there is no hip hop. There is no soul food. There is no rock and roll or jazz. 100% of the slang in American and now global English parlance comes from us.

I'd argue that attempts to claim we are this that or the other like in the video minimizes the very real achievements of black people in America. It's like when people only want to talk about the Egyptians, they completely ignore the achievements of the Zimbabweans, Ethiopians, beninese, and other huge cultural, and economic powers in Africa and the achievements they made.

I disagree, black people aren’t looking to any of those places you listed to find a commonplace for today. They’re looking for before black Americans we’re enslaved to see if it’s where we come from.

No, bruh, but it seems like many of these pseudo intellectuals are so eager to distance themselves from our history they go as far as concocting outlandish theories.

let me ask you this, how did you find this history you’re speaking about? Have you actually researched it or is it something you were just taught. Have you ever took the time out to actually see if it’s even true?

 

[Antwon Mitchell]

Somewhat relatable to the topic at hand here are some words words from Malcolm X himself that will somewhat serve as my answer to this thread...

* I read it from it this article *

It's a few years old.

“No, I am not an American. I’m one of the 22 million black people who are the victims of Americanism; one of the 22 million black people who are the victims of democracy, nothing but disguised hypocrisy”

“So, I’m not standing here speaking to you as an American, or a patriot, or a flag-saluter, or a flag-waver. No, not I. I am speaking as a victim of this American system, and I see America through the eyes of the victim. I don’t see any American dream; I see an American nightmare”

“you and I, 22 million African-Americans — that’s what we are — Africans who are in America. You’re nothing but Africans. Nothing but Africans. In fact, you’d get farther calling yourself African instead of Negro”

Here's a quote from what the writer of the article states: “Today many Malcolm X admirers would post his quotes on their Instagram and wear T-shirts with his face printed on them, yet turn around and call themselves “Americans” and even reject Africa.”

 

[EndGame]

Egypt was Black.

Black Americans and Blacks of South America, Caribbean Islands and Asia are the dispersed of Kingdom of Judah. The Northern Kingdom remained in Africa and were pretty much together.

Americas is probably the oldest continent in the world and it is shrouded in so much mystery. Judah also fled to America to escape persecution.

 

[Brehvity3135]

Nobody in the thread ever denied this bruh. Just that we have history that goes beyond the slave trade. Even the names to describe our group of people change every so often. Black American, African American, Colored, Negroes, People of Color and nikkas
All are ambiguous.

So saying blacks have history before the atlantic slave trade is c00nish now? That's what they teaching ya'll on tik tok.

Let’s keep it a buck. Everyone knows blk ppl have history before the Atlantic slave trade. Who is saying otherwise?

But most of those histories are learned to devalue our history in America. Most of the histories learned have zero to do with black Americans descendant from western Africans. The history in America is enough. It doesn’t need additives. It doesn’t need to be constantly placed next to whiteness to for it to be valued. The only places that are valued are the same ones valued by whiteness so even the scholarship of historical research is white washed .

I hope white ppl start claiming western African countries so it can interest black Americans collectively

 

[breakfuss]

let me ask you this, how did you find this history you’re speaking about? Have you actually researched it or is it something you were just taught. Have you ever took the time out to actually see if it’s even true?

Look, we can go down a million rabbit holes if you’d like. Accepting widely agreed upon facts does not preclude one from thinking critically/skeptically. I’m NOT trying to dissuade people from asking questions. However, just arbitrarily making shyt up to fit a more palatable narrative aint the way, breh. I understand the PAIN because I live it with you. Our history does NOT begin with slavery but I am also not ashamed of it.

 

[TripleAgent]

Tiktok is a wasteland of fakkitry.

 

[Brehvity3135]

Look, we can go down a million rabbit holes if you’d like. Accepting widely agreed upon facts does not preclude one from thinking critically/skeptically. I’m NOT trying to dissuade people from asking questions. However, just arbitrarily making shyt up to fit a more palatable narrative aint the way, breh. I understand the PAIN because I live it with you. Our history does NOT begin with slavery but I am also not ashamed of it.

These nikkas got the same tactics as OG MLM hustlers

Let me ask you a question headass

 

[MMS]

do folks even know what "Imhotep" means?

Imhotep - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

ỉỉ-m-ḥtp "(the one who) comes in peace"

• Yod ( , i with a Semitistic aleph instead of the dot, both yod and alef being considered possible sound values in the 19th century).[3]

Spoiler

look what Ramesses is holding (hieroglyph for Yodh)

We are living in a world of illusion

@Ghost Utmost @DoubleClutch @Marks @Dave24 @Koichos lit a candle today for the main participants in this thread I believe yall would like to see today's service's topic :banderas:: Sunday of the 7th Ecumenical Council - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America

www.thecoli.com

 

[Kingofthereal]

Look, we can go down a million rabbit holes if you’d like. Accepting widely agreed upon facts does not preclude one from thinking critically/skeptically. I’m NOT trying to dissuade people from asking questions. However, just arbitrarily making shyt up to fit a more palatable narrative aint the way, breh. I understand the PAIN because I live it with you. Our history does NOT begin with slavery but I am also not ashamed of it.

Yea, this convo won’t go nowhere for neither of us. You’re limiting yourself to whatever’s being told to you. I like to see for myself if possible. “Widely agreed upon facts” also hold no weight with me, they can be widely agreed upon lies. It was also agreed upon millions once that me and you weren’t even humans. Do I agree with making shyt up? No, I agree with searching for truth with evidence backing that truth up though. If these people have facts and evidence who am I not to at least see if it’s true for myself since I like finding the truth in these type of things.

 

[Toe Jay Simpson]

Where have we heard all this before?

“Oh I’m 35% Irish, 7% Cantonese, 15% Native American, 5% French…”

 

[ba'al]

No, bruh, but it seems like many of these pseudo intellectuals are so eager to distance themselves from our history they go as far as concocting outlandish theories.

I think a lot of the "pseudo-intellectuals" are mainly cats trying to piece the historic puzzles back together that were stripped away from our forefathers. If our history wasn't important before the slave trade I wouldn't see a need to strip it from our foreparents. Researching that history doesn't mean you are trying to distance yourself from what happened in the slave trade. It seems you have two types of cats out there in terms of this topic. Cats whose whole identity is rooted in historical romanticism and feel-good history then you got the other side of the coin cats whose whole identity is rooted in "the struggle" and that black folks never had much history until we're brought to North America and that most of our history is based in trauma and that our biggest historical achievements where rooted in western entertainment, sports, and social justice reform. I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle personally.

 

[MMS]

I think a lot of the "pseudo-intellectuals" are mainly cats trying to piece the historic puzzles back together that were stripped away from our forefathers. If our history wasn't important before the slave trade I wouldn't see a need to strip it from our foreparents. Researching that history doesn't mean you trying to distance yourself from what happened in the slave trade. It seems you have two types of cats out there in terms of this topic. Cats whose whole identity is rooted in historical romanticism and feel-good history then you got the other side of the coin cats whose whole identity is rooted in "the struggle" and that black folks never had much history until we're brought to North America and that most of our history is based in trauma and that our biggest historical achievements where advancements in Western entertainment and sports. I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle personally.

what if a new type of identity emerges, one that isnt bound to considering yourself based on your neighbors? ones you like or dislike?

to me thats when the good change starts

 

[Cobalt Sire]

The issue with lumping Ancient Egyptians in there is we have DNA evidence, hieroglyphics, and even National Geographic admitting Nubia conquered Egypt.

Ramesses 3 and his son had the e1b1a haplotype, which is mostly found in West and Central Africa.

"Genetic kinship analyses revealed identical haplotypes in both mummies (table 1⇓); using the Whit Athey’s haplogroup predictor, we determined the Y chromosomal haplogroup E1b1a. The testing of polymorphic autosomal microsatellite loci provided similar results in at least one allele of each marker (table 2⇓)."

--Hawass et al 2012. Revisiting the harem conspiracy and death of Ramesses III. British Medical Journal, BMJ2012;345:e8268

https://research-repository.griffith.edu.au/bitstream/handle/10072/62081/94716_1.pdf?sequence=1

Stop being afraid to claim your history, especially if there is proof to back it up.

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

Jello is made from marshmallows, prove me wrong

The people who are attempting to debase verifiable and scalable history need to make a coherent counter which none of those weirdos have nor can.


Black Americans have a proud and amazing story. Just because some are in competition with white folk and feel inferior doesn’t mean we are without culture. What we created since slavery has been nothing short of amazing, this constant debasing of our people is treacherous and c00nish. Longing and appropriating cultures and histories not our own is c00nish and treacherous.

uhhh aren't white ppl trying to prove that the earth is flat?

 

[ba'al]

But most of those histories are learned to devalue our history in America.

I don't believe this fam. I think most of the time the intention is pure and genuine. Knowing black history outside of the slave trade doesn't devalue african american history imo. But you do have charlatans out there as well as poverty pimps. But most of the time I think AAs researching their history before the slave trade comes from a genuine place and not one that seeks to devalue their current working knowledge of their history.