We Are Hebrews, Egyptians, and Original Native Americans. Overstand, Understand Imhotep

[#BOTHSIDES]

OP if history didn't matter so much, then white folks wouldn't work so hard to hide and destroy it.

 

[breakfuss]

Yea, this convo won’t go nowhere for neither of us. You’re limiting yourself to whatever’s being told to you. I like to see for myself if possible. “Widely agreed upon facts” also hold no weight with me, they can be widely agreed upon lies. It was also agreed upon millions once that me and you weren’t even humans. Do I agree with making shyt up? No, I agree with searching for truth with evidence backing that truth up though. If these people have facts and evidence who am I not to at least see if it’s true for myself since I like finding the truth in these type of things.

Of course bro. And I watched that documentary after Kyrie tweeted it out! I gave it a chance. A lot of it falls apart under the slightest bit of scrutiny. I know that negro didn’t watch the shyt. I’m trying to be respectful and not completely trash it because it feels like some y’all subscribe to some of what it suggests. Even if we’re to accept the veracity of some of its claims, it floats a lot of pretty awful ideas about another group of people. Why is that necessary? That’s especially where this Black Israelite stuff loses me.

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

I think black Americans are in a difficult place that not many people can really understand. What you’re seeing is the end result of a people enslaved for hundreds of years without justice. You’re seeing people that have no knowledge of where they truly come from. Don’t hit me with the “we’re African”. Where in Africa? What tribe?

African Americans like other Afro-descended peoples of the Americas (Jamaicans, Haitian, Bajans, Afro-Brazilians, Afro-Colombians, Afro-Guyanese, etc) are mainly descended from West and Central African peoples from Senegal to all the way along the Atlantic coast ending in Angola. A myriad of genetically and culturally diverse peoples - Wolof, Serer, Mende, Mandinka, Kru, Fulani, Bete, Akan, Ewe, Dagomba, Senoufo, Ga-Adangbe, Fon, Bariba, Yoruba, Edo, Igbo, Ijaw, Hausa, Ibibio, Efik, Moko/Ejagham, Bamoun, Bamileke, Sawa peoples, Beti, Fang, Bakongo, Bateke, Sangho/a, Mbundu, Ovimbundu and many more. If you wanna know more about these ethnic groups and their histories, start reading books about them or google them. If you wanna know if you're related to any of the mentioned ethnic groups, get a DNA test (I suggest 23&me and Ancestry.com).

These are things most black Americans would like to know but unfortunately we probably never will. It’s also fukked up that it’s a joke to people. Nothing about it is funny. Then again it’s easy to make jokes, the hard part would be actually trying to figure it out. Most people will always take the easy way out though.

Instead of debunking these things people make jokes out of them, am I saying the things hoteps and other black people like them say are true? Not at all, what I’m saying is prove them wrong.

As @Brehvity3135 said there's no point in engaging in such deluded nonsense.

Black Americans are the only people that get made fun of for wanting to feel connected to a culture, a history and be known for being more than just a slave since hell, that’s all the American school system teaches.

A little hyperbolic. Trust me, there are/were many people and ethnic groups throughout history that tried to connect themselves (and others) to histories and cultures that weren't their own.
Examples:
The Brits (and a German) tried to connect the Ruins of Great Zimbabwe with the Queen of Sheba (or the polity of Saba) or the Phoenicians. Some believed that Arabs built the stoneworks
The Brits (and a German) tried to connect the Ile-Ife Bronze heads to Ancient Greeks and Atlantis (seriously).
Euro-coloniser imperialists thought that the Swahili Civilisation was purely Middle-Eastern in origin. Hell, fukktards still do think that.

And while I understand your sentiment (plus the Yank education system is terrible) there's no need to claim a culture or history that you don't descend from. However, there's nothing wrong with admiring other cultures and histories.

 

[Hathaway]

This hurts. We have no idea where we come from and people make a mockery of it. Hell, we walk around with the last names of slave owners and we never think twice about it. Nearly all of us have European last names and we don't bat an eye. Many of us in the south went to schools names after confederate leaders. Many of our cities and counties especially here in Alabama are named after slave owners/confederate leaders. My college (a fukking hbcu) had a building called Bibb Graves who was a governor allied with the KKK.

We are so fukked up that I couldn't even begin to imagine what the solution could be. These white people have done a number on us and the scary thing is, the majority of us are complacent about it. We see nothing wrong with it. When I talked to my parents and tried explaining to them why we should change our last name they were too lost to even understand the need. Systematic racism is a hell of a thing.

 

[LeaveMyHairLineAlone]

OP, are you black?

If so, i'mma give you 5mins to prove it and don't act like you don't know how to post pic

 

[Luke Cage]

This hurts. We have no idea where we come from and people make a mockery of it. Hell, we walk around with the last names of slave owners and we never think twice about it. Nearly all of us have European last names and we don't bat an eye. Many of us in the south went to schools names after confederate leaders. Many of our cities and counties especially here in Alabama are named after slave owners/confederate leaders. My college (a fukking hbcu) had a building called Bibb Graves who was a governor allied with the KKK.

We are so fukked up that I couldn't even begin to imagine what the solution could be. These white people have done a number on us and the scary thing is, the majority of us are complacent about it. We see nothing wrong with it. When I talked to my parents and tried explaining to them why we should change our last name they were too lost to even understand the need. Systematic racism is a hell of a thing.

I don't see a reason to change the names, because while they are as you said "slave names" they weren't assigned to us by slave owners. But chosen by former slaves after they had gotten their freedom. Our ancestors just went with the most common and familiar names they knew at the time.

It is Literally the first act of free will many of our ancestors got to make. Erasing that seems like it would be disrespectful to them lowkey.

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

Let’s keep it a buck. Everyone knows blk ppl have history before the Atlantic slave trade. Who is saying otherwise?

Some are willfully ignorant.

But most of those histories are learned to devalue our history in America. Most of the histories learned have zero to do with black Americans descendant from western Africans. The history in America is enough. It doesn’t need additives. It doesn’t need to be constantly placed next to whiteness to for it to be valued. The only places that are valued are the same ones valued by whiteness so even the scholarship of historical research is white washed .

I don't think that's necessarily true. I think most Afro-descended peoples of the Americas have a genuine interest in where we come from in Africa and whom we descend from. Furthermore, I think most of us accept that we are mostly descended from West and Central African ethnic groups yet we also see ourselves as different from them because of history (time), genetics (intermixing of different West and Central African ethnic groups and Euros) and geography (established ourselves in the Americas).

I hope white ppl start claiming western African countries so it can interest black Americans collectively

Ironically, plenty of white people in Cuba and Brazil practice and follow Santeria and Candomble which have their roots in Yoruba cosmology.

 

[Yzak]

I think black Americans are in a difficult place that not many people can really understand. What you’re seeing is the end result of a people enslaved for hundreds of years without justice. You’re seeing people that have no knowledge of where they truly come from. Don’t hit me with the “we’re African”. Where in Africa? What tribe?

These are things most black Americans would like to know but unfortunately we probably never will. It’s also fukked up that it’s a joke to people. Nothing about it is funny. Then again it’s easy to make jokes, the hard part would be actually trying to figure it out. Most people will always take the easy way out though.

Instead of debunking these things people make jokes out of them, am I saying the things hoteps and other black people like them say are true? Not at all, what I’m saying is prove them wrong.

Black Americans are the only people that get made fun of for wanting to feel connected to a culture, a history and be known for being more than just a slave since hell, that’s all the American school system teaches.

Idiots that claim to be Joos, Natives, moors, olmecs and all that shyt are just dumb. But you are right about the effects of no justice. The issue is we tried integrate with people that hated us and in doing so we basically killed our own unique culture to fit into the spaces of cacs, who then started promoting "our culture" to us as ignorance, violence and self hatred. So naturally, those that see the shyt for what it is want to distance themselves, but they go about it all wrong.


I think it's a combination of embarrassment of our ancestors being enslaved and embarrassment of our current conditions.


There is honestly nothing we currently produce to be proud of . Can't even see Black people owning stores in our neighborhoods

 

[Family Man]

Dupe

 

[Family Man]

Black Americans have a rich and storied history right here in America based in reality. No need to put on a genie costume and make up some hocus pocus bullshyt.

 

[Low End Derrick]

Dafuq goin on in here?

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

This hurts. We have no idea where we come from and people make a mockery of it. Hell, we walk around with the last names of slave owners and we never think twice about it. Nearly all of us have European last names and we don't bat an eye. Many of us in the south went to schools names after confederate leaders. Many of our cities and counties especially here in Alabama are named after slave owners/confederate leaders. My college (a fukking hbcu) had a building called Bibb Graves who was a governor allied with the KKK.

We are so fukked up that I couldn't even begin to imagine what the solution could be. These white people have done a number on us and the scary thing is, the majority of us are complacent about it. We see nothing wrong with it. When I talked to my parents and tried explaining to them why we should change our last name they were too lost to even understand the need. Systematic racism is a hell of a thing.