we gotta marginalize these trap producers

[28 Gramz]

Mike Will and young chop, et. Al. are not making money in the same vein as more high profile producers. Essentially, they're still scraping by.

The nikka Mike Will produced 3 gold singles that I know of (No Lie,Bandz,Turn Off The Lights) and is now working with Rhianna,Drake and Lil Wayne...but he's "scraping by"

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

The nikka Mike Will produced 3 gold singles that I know of (No Lie,Bandz,Turn Off The Lights) and is now working with Rhianna,Drake and Lil Wayne...but he's "scraping by"

I'll just throw it out there that producers tend to make more money off these records than the artists do....

High profile guys can charge more money for a single beat but if your song gets a million spins like No Lie has over regular radio/pandora/sirius/etc then it doesn't matter because they are making tons of money.

 

[Big Mel]

absolute prolific thread. the shyt is a scourge.


but, boom bap has always rocked clubs. all about the benjamins is boom bap.

 

[28 Gramz]

but, boom bap has always rocked clubs.

What kinda Questlove ass parties are you goin to?

 

[L&HH]

The nikka Mike Will produced 3 gold singles that I know of (No Lie,Bandz,Turn Off The Lights) and is now working with Rhianna,Drake and Lil Wayne...but he's "scraping by"

He also co-produced Mercy (did the drums) which went double platinum

 

[MoneyTron]

but, boom bap has always rocked clubs. all about the benjamins is boom bap.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Big Mel]

i said 'rocked'. past tense. i would never go to a corny ass club now SPECIFICALLY because the music sucks. And if the people in said club enjoy said music i assume they may suck as well.

 

[Mac Casper]

. . okay Dre


. . tell us more about how work ethic should take a back seat to quality

 

[Big Mel]

work ethic means squat if the quality is low. the Chinese have a great work ethic when it comes producing pieces of useless plastic objects.

 

[labelplant]

In short this thread made label say ok, make another Chop.

 

[Big Mel]

there a dozen Chop's right now.

 

[TEKBEATZ]

I wish i was scrapping by on music.

 

[Non Sequitur]

It's really the hooks that make most of these songs. The beats don't really stand up on their own, in my opinion.


But, it's possible that these type of beats bring the hooks out of the artist more than a jazz loop or whatever would.



Edit: Oh, and 1-star

 

[blackwaterpark]

...i know i'm gonna get a lot of hate and shyt about this. and yes it's a long read if you don't want to that's fine....

but when i listen to all these two chord, schizo-snare beats sounding the same

it reminds me of back in the day when and1 was at it's height...and you had hot sauce and AO and skip and all them doing exciting shyt, but at the end of the day it was understood that it was a "lower form" of basketball, like a niche thing, they took a couple exciting aspects of the game and magnified them. when you really wanted to watch high level basketball you'd watch the nba.

but then you'd have a minority of idiots who would act like these guys could actually play in the league, and you knew people who ODed and starting trying fancy dribbles and shyt all day thinking they would get on the roster when the tour came around...because it seemed so attainable, and to this day there's a market for professional dunkers and dribblers but no one compares them to the nba.

now all these lex luger wannabes who stole fruity loops are all over the place making the same beat. anyone reading this thread could pick up fruity loops, get some vsts, find the right arpeggio sound and get on a mixtape in a month or two if they knew the right people...the attainability of it just threw the game for a loop, and we all know someone who thinks they're a producer cause they've mastered a sound that's extremely shallow technically but sounds impressive because of the drum tricks and all that

i'm not even hating on the actual product because it has it's place (i wouldn't want to listen to boombap in a club) but fans and critics are acting like they're not doing what any true producer couldn't pick up anytime they wanted to, except they're busy doing music that will last. i just don't understand how someone could prop up say Young Chop as the best producer out when there are people that might not have the same output but they're really producing

people shyt on RZA or Kanye or Primo in 2013, but do you really think with their ability if they wanted to they couldn't play with fruity loops and come up with mixtapes full of this (and i'm not hating either cause i fukk with the song for what it is):

Lil Reese ft Chief Keef - "Traffic" (Official Instrumental) - YouTube

basically my point is the majority of these trap beatmakers are doing what any producer, or anyone really could do, but they're being talked about in the same arena as real producers which has to stop. just enjoy the music, who cares who produced that shyt because really it all leads back to lex, then shawty redd then mannie fresh primarily. they deserve residuals from all these nikkas

the less lames with the same beat skeleton, couple VSTs and a lex luger drumkit the better.

it aint going nowhere especially now that all these white boy edm priducers are doing it.

 

[My neck and my back]

it's always the same nerd ass nikkas complaining about music they DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TOO