We Old Heads are the same as '85 Old Heads. "Rap is Crap"

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I never wanted to be the old head that shytted on young people's music. I do think mainstream rap has regressed in terms of pure lyricism, but the fact is that people are more concerned with the beat than the words in the song nowadays. That's hard to accept for many but it was hard to accept artists not playing instruments. For what it's worth, I think today's hip hop producers are phenomenal and today's beats are so much more complex than what I listened to growing up.

I also like many of today's MC's like
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Joey Badass, Curren$y, A$AP Rocky, Nipsey Hussle, Action Bronson, YG, Stalley, Roc Marciano, and even singer rappers like Drake and Future. Although some of these down south trap dudes don't appeal to me, I still get down to that stuff in a club type setting. So although it will never be like the 90's, I can appreciate what we have going on today.
 

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my beef with new hip hop is there's no originality anymore ... everybody raps the same way about the same shyt over the same beat ... everybody looks the same, dresses the same, uses the same slang ... thats on the mainstream level ... the you have your "alt" rappers that all sound the same, dress the same and spit over the same beats ...everything is a cold calculated gimmick now ... hip hop's selling point was always gritty authenticity now its all plastic pre-packaged GMO high-fructose corn syrup bullshyt .. i barely listen to rap anymore to tell ya the truth
 

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my beef with new hip hop is there's no originality anymore ... everybody raps the same way about the same shyt over the same beat ... everybody looks the same, dresses the same, uses the same slang ... thats on the mainstream level ... the you have your "alt" rappers that all sound the same, dress the same and spit over the same beats ...everything is a cold calculated gimmick now ... hip hop's selling point was always gritty authenticity now its all plastic pre-packaged GMO high-fructose corn syrup bullshyt .. i barely listen to rap anymore to tell ya the truth
You are white, rap was never for you.
 

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I gotta disagree breh.

The problem is your parents....I don't know them but let's say they were listening to Stevie Wonder, or Earth, Wind & Fire.

There is a significant generation gap because they're hearing rap, a completely new genre of music.

The problem nowadays is kids are trying to dictate what is good in a genre that is damn near 40 years old. It's not their generation's music....they have no historic ties to it. In any other era they would've came up with their own shyt....like we did....or your parent's generation....but this generation didn't.

So nah....it's not like your parents shytting on rap. It's like, you trying to school your parents on the music they grew up on.

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How the fukk we sposed to come up with a new genre? :to:

Ya'll combined the best parts of western classical composition, with african polyrhythm (Soul, jazz and Funk)... and yall used an array of instruments from around the world. And then in the 1980s and 1990s, yall went back and took the best parts from those pieces of music, and amplified everything with digital studio technology.

In the last century, our culture has been synthesizing thousands of years of musical tradition, combining everything and then isolating the most pure elements in an ongoing cycle.

After all that... all you got left is a fruity autotune singer in a flamingo costume
 
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there is definitely stuff I can feel now but when your older you have less free time and like someone earlier said your not having experiences with the music like you did as a teen

I remember as a teen anticipating when an album would come out or waiting to tape a song on hot 97

now people don't get physical copies of music its just instant gratification and streaming so people have shorter attention spans

I did some research on music from the 80's and Michael Jackson's thriller released singles and videos for about 4 years off one album...there is no way that could ever happen today
 
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Breh I got zero problems with young people but this ain't your generation's music. It's 40 fukking years old. It would be like me trying to school my pops on Chuck Berry or some shyt.

The reason there's such a generation gap in hip-hop is because every generation prior to this one had their own sound. 50's had doo-wop, 60's had psychaledic rock, 70's had soul and classic rock, 80's had disco, metal and hip-hop, etc.

For the first time in (recent) history you have a group of young people with no sound of their own, latching onto something that started 3 decades prior.

Fred.

That's why shyt like "swag" got pushed to the forefront.Compensation for lack of originality.

I say forefront because "swag" was just something you had back in the day.

It didn't have to be exaggerated or turned into a marketing tool.It was about the music first.
 

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That's why shyt like "swag" got pushed to the forefront.Compensation for lack of originality.

I say forefront because "swag" was just something you had back in the day.

It didn't have to be exaggerated or turned into a marketing tool.It was about the music first.
Its still about the music.

Show me someone in the forefront on hiphop for reasons other than music

I swear y'all make up the weirdest shyt to justify your hate of current rap.

And you are quoting a white poster who has the slightest clue about swag
 

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Its their genre now... Let it go

You can still break out ya casio for those fugees, wu, Pac and badboy albums
 
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Its still about the music.

Show me someone in the forefront on hiphop for reasons other than music

I swear y'all make up the weirdest shyt to justify your hate of current rap.

And you are quoting a white poster who has the slightest clue about swag

Everybody's on the same shyt.Just depends on who the marketing machine wants to back up.

These new niccaz are only good for a chuckle.

When they say shyt like "Run up on me and shyt will get uglier than an Iguana"

or "What's the square root of 69? 8 something"

It's a stylish, "cool" factor there, but the soul is gone.

White boy spit some real shyt in that post
 

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Well we were also raised and taught to learn and respect a culture.

When biting, ghost writing, ducking battles is the norm and accepted...

U can call it flabby and sick if u want
all these things werent prevalent in the 80's n 90's? easy e never wrote a rhyme. everyone making mafioso themed music. ect. no one cared b/c it sounded good.
 
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