We still pretending the Warriors didn't make a mistake drafting Wiseman over Lamelo or nah

[Don Homer]

I agree with you

But taking Kuminga was a swing IMO.

If he booms, he’s a franchise cornerstone at a premium position.

it's looking like a miss

Did you know he can't play his natural position because he has none of the skills required? And i'm not even exaggerating. I mean NONE. He has nearly a 1:1 ast/turnover ratio (1.9 to 1.4 specifically), so he cant pass, he cannot shoot with any consistency, doesn't have the IQ to make correct decisions constantly, commits headscratching fouls more often than not, can't dribble, can't create separation between himself and his defender either. And to top it all off, when the Warriors play him at the 4 or 5, he doesn't even rebound. And i haven't even talked about his attitude and motor. Literally ZERO requisite wing skills

I watched Franz outplay kuminga BOTH times the warriors played Orlando. There's a reason people are high on Orlando's future. They drafted the 2 best players in b2b drafts. Kuminga isn't even close to being considered best in the draft

 

[FAH1223]

Larry Riley and jerry west are responsible for Klay being in Golden State, not Bob

Bob got draymond, Harrison Barnes (a fine pick at the time), Looney, and Poole

Everything else has been miss after miss after miss. And Barnes didnt last with GSW past his rookie contract and Poole was egregiously overpaid. So do with that information as you will

Harrison Barnes didn’t last in GSW cause y’all got KD

 

[Don Homer]

Harrison Barnes didn’t last in GSW cause y’all got KD

he didnt last because he's doing what Poole is doing now. If better than 18%FG over 3 games, KD prolly stays in OKC

 

[FAH1223]

he didnt last because he's doing what Poole is doing now. If better than 18%FG over 3 games, KD prolly stays in OKC

 

[jwinfield]

Harrison Barnes didn’t last in GSW cause y’all got KD

If Barnes doesn't shyt the bed those last 3 games, I think GS resigns him.

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Of course they fukked up

These bozos knew on draft night that Klay was injured and destined to be from that point on.

There was plenty tape on Melo and dude literally showed out in the NBL.

Now if the warriors just wanted to “win now” with the current crew from that time and get whatever was left out of Steph and Co then I understand. But your future always matters. This team isnt the 1997 Bulls.

But you can build around Melo and watch how crazy his free agency looks next year. And watch the Lakers somehow pull him in

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Nah the Warriors just overrated the fukk outta wiseman and now they traded him for a bag of chips …if it wasn’t for Steph saving them again this is the kind of draft asset malpractice that gets a GM fired

Yup.

It’s gonna be a sad day when Steph walks away for good because it’s not like the “genius” of this team is the result of elite coaching crafted from the sacred scrolls of Tex Winter.

 

[Ozymandeas]

Goofy ass nikkas were arguing me down too

They could’ve used Melo last night

 

[Don Homer]

If the warriors really were "Light years ahead of the rest of the league" like Lacob's dumbass said, and not just an organization that got lucky they drafted a top 10 player OAT with their #7 overall pick, they would have noticed the glaring issues in Wiseman's game, and picked LaMelo. OR they could've traded down to get Tyrese Haliburton, OR they could've just drafted Tyrese with the #2 overall pick. It would've turned a lot of heads, but since they're "Light years ahead of the rest of the league", they would have been shown to be geniuses


....but they're not geniuses. They're just an organization that got lucky they drafted Steph, and had Larry riley and Jerry West who scout great players all the time. But ofc the Warriors org got arrogant and let those guys go. Since then, we have drafted fringe NBA talent outside of Poole and Looney. Seriously, look it up. ALL of the warriors first round picks and second round picks that the warriors let go of are out the league or not playing on their teams. ALL of them

Jacob Evans - out the league
Damian Jones - traded from the lakers, now rotting on the utah jazz bench
Eric Paschall - made All Rookie 1st team, now playing in puerto rico after 3 seasons
Jordan Bell - out of the league, in china
Alen Smailagic - out the league
Nico Mannion - out the league
Justinian Jessup - cant even get into the league
James Wiseman - salary dumped as the #2 overall pick. Marvin Bagley IV
Jonathan Kuminga - rotting on the bench as the #7 overall pick on some Jarett Culver shyt
Patrick McCaw - out the league

They're not light years ahead. they just had steph to cover up their incompetence. Like @Left.A1 said, misusing and missing on draft assets like this would normally get you fired

 

[Don Homer]

Goofy ass nikkas were arguing me down too

They could’ve used Melo last night

"dont draft lamelo because you already have Jamal Crawford" head ass nikkas

 

[Braman]

If they drafted Lamelo, Poole would've been rotting on the bench like Moody.

The team needed a big, they drafted the highest-rated big in the draft.

It ain't rocket science. That was the best course of action at the time. It just so happened the guy was a bust.

Bad take.

1- Who cares what Poole and Moody would be doing. Melo is the superior player.

2- You don’t draft for need at #2 overall.

And that’s the warriors problem. They’re still accommodating to the old model and old players. The minute I saw Draymond pulling wiseman aside and coaching him I said aww nah that’s not gon work. It’s like if you start a job and you got high goals and they got the 10 year career worker who’s never been promoted mentoring you. Like bruh I don’t wanna be you They got the #2 pick trying to make him the new Draymond. He’s overqualified for that.

 

[b. woods]

If the warriors really were "Light years ahead of the rest of the league" like Lacob's dumbass said, and not just an organization that got lucky they drafted a top 10 player OAT with their #7 overall pick, they would have noticed the glaring issues in Wiseman's game, and picked LaMelo. OR they could've traded down to get Tyrese Haliburton, OR they could've just drafted Tyrese with the #2 overall pick. It would've turned a lot of heads, but since they're "Light years ahead of the rest of the league", they would have been shown to be geniuses


....but they're not geniuses. They're just an organization that got lucky they drafted Steph, and had Larry riley and Jerry West who scout great players all the time. But ofc the Warriors org got arrogant and let those guys go. Since then, we have drafted fringe NBA talent outside of Poole and Looney. Seriously, look it up. ALL of the warriors first round picks and second round picks that the warriors let go of are out the league or not playing on their teams. ALL of them

Jacob Evans - out the league
Damian Jones - traded from the lakers, now rotting on the utah jazz bench
Eric Paschall - made All Rookie 1st team, now playing in puerto rico after 3 seasons
Jordan Bell - out of the league, in china
Alen Smailagic - out the league
Nico Mannion - out the league
Justinian Jessup - cant even get into the league
James Wiseman - salary dumped as the #2 overall pick. Marvin Bagley IV
Jonathan Kuminga - rotting on the bench as the #7 overall pick on some Jarett Culver shyt
Patrick McCaw - out the league

They're not light years ahead. they just had steph to cover up their incompetence. Like @Left.A1 said, misusing and missing on draft assets like this would normally get you fired

Most sports organizations are like that and have been like that throughout history, no matter the league.

 

[Braman]

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just because he can jump high doesnt mean his ceiling is higher. Rookie franz is better than kuminga is now. Dude doesnt even understand why he's been benched the entire playoffs

Franz is so far ahead of kuminga it's not even close. That's why you don't draft players and try to teach them how to play basketball in the toughest league in the world. It's like trying to teach calculus to someone who hasn't learned basic algebra

Franz is playing 30 minutes a game and starting and allowed to play thru mistakes. You honestly don’t think Kuminga couldn’t do the same if he played for Orlando? You honestly don’t think Wagner would be struggling for minutes bc he doesn’t ‘play the right way’ if he was in GS?

The problem is GS. They’re stuck on an old model in a league where there’s no defense and 19 year olds are coming in getting buckets

You think Shaeden Sharpe just magically ‘knows the game’. No, he’s just as clueless as Kuminga. Except Portland let’s him keep it simple and go get a bucket.

Like what are the odds Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody, and Poole all can’t play…it’s not them, it’s the expectations. All 4 of them will/would thrive elsewhere

 

[Shadow King]

This series isn't proving this premise right.

Bad take.

1- Who cares what Poole and Moody would be doing. Melo is the superior prospect.

2- You don’t draft for need at #2 overall.

And that’s the warriors problem. They’re still accommodating to the old model and old players. The minute I saw Draymond pulling wiseman aside and coaching him I said aww nah that’s not gon work. It’s like if you start a job and you got high gials ans they got the 10 year career roller who’s never been promoted mentoring you. Like bruh I don’t wanna be you They got the #2 pick trying to make them the new Draymond. He’s overqualified for that.

Yes you do.

 

[pete clemenza]

Either Wiseman or Kuminga had to work out for this team by now. Them still relying on Draymond who doesn't even look at the basket to score anymore kills offense.