Wealthy cacs in NYC rant against bringing more blacks into schools

[1970s HeRon Flow]

I feel you. I understand your feelings about it.

My pops himself was subject to countless gun point robbers during the 80s and early 90s in Brooklyn.

But breh, most people weren't born on some criminal savagery shyt. Many factors contributed to that.

Again, I understand you.

Yeah but it takes a real piece of shyt to rob a woman

I remember telling you my younger brother was robbed at gunpoint a few weeks ago, and I legit was and making jokes at him about getting caught slipping, I’ve been lucky to have never had it happen to me, but if it did I’d be like “damn that’s tuff “

But for a man to prey on women to rob, nah, I don’t care what your story is, you ain’t shyt

 

[September]

This simply isn't true. I'm in the UWS regularly because my aunt lives up there. There along with the UES are among the whitest enclaves in the city.

UWS is clearly more diverse. My cousin lived, studied and works here, my aunt lives here too and my friends and family visit regularly as well. They see a lot of black/Latinos people when they come here.

If we are going by anecdotes, I asked my coworker his opinion on this (gave no context) because even though I live here and feel familiar, this isn’t my neighborhood. He’s an older millennial, Harlem born/bred, used to work in a school in UWS and his father is also from here. He said “black people deep” in UWS “it all looks good on paper” and “white people b fooled”.

I told him that I was surprised because when you think UWS, you don’t think black people.

He laughed and said “they can’t be announcing that”. He said no one cares or checks for them, but that the cops always get there quick as fukk lol. He has black friends in both the UWS pjs and the medium/high income buildings. I have a feeling that if I do these interviews, I’ll get similar answers.

I never said UWS was Harlem. But the black population here is not some small amount of people that you never see, tucked away.

They are visible and ignored because many are working class/poor and it doesn’t fit in with the Upper West Side glitz and glamour.

Regaardkess of your feelings, the black population of the Upper West Side is small and nothing you say will change that fact

Regardless of your feelings, nothing you say will change what I see and what the people from here know.

Was thinking more like morningside heights.

There are def shelters in UWS too. I’ve donated tampons and pads before (which are a big necessity in shelters that aren’t often donated!!!).

 

[Mook]

That shyt was obvious when you got stiffer sentences for crack then coke.

Crack was ridiculous though. No one knew what to do about it.

 

[Devilinurear]

Crack was ridiculous though. No one knew what to do about it.

So the solution is to make harsher drug sentences which causes more violence because people want to avoid longer jail time. I mean it is not like they did the same thing in the 20s saw the rise in violence and changed the law.
But blacks were the problem so fukk them.

 

[Arithmetic]

bu bu it's only the poor whites that support Trump

This has long been proven false. It's not even mathematically possible for him to have one without the well-to-do cacs. and there are many of them.

 

[superunknown23]

This has long been proven false. It's not even mathematically possible for him to have one without the well-to-do cacs. and there are many of them.

The First White President

 

[Scholar]

Separate and still unequal

 

[Scholar]

The new school chancellor supports the plan as does the major. It's a step in the right direction for the city

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

UWS has always been upper class

Not true, UWS south of 67th used to be black and is also where Westside Story was filmed. The Lincoln Center area used to be known as San Juan Hill and was not much different from Uptown in population or social class.

 

[BigMan]

Not true, UWS south of 67th used to be black and is also where Westside Story was filmed. The Lincoln Center area used to be known as San Juan Hill and was not much different from Uptown in population or social class.

now post the years when this was the case
where parts of Central Park are used to be a free black settlement but how relevant is that?

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

now post the years when this was the case
where parts of Central Park are used to be a free black settlement but how relevant is that?

You gon have the same energy about Harlem 30 years from now when it's white and affluent? You gonna tell your grandkids it was always wealthy and white?

 

[Roadside]

25% of students being under qualified is a joke. Get the best 10% or something. No need for a quarter of the school to be under qualified with shytty grades

Isn't the point of school to improve the level of the students? If the school takes in already high scoring students and then at the end of it pumps out high scoring students then what is the point? If the school has any value and has believes it has a system that helps children learn then it should be able to pull those under-performing kids up.

 

[BigMan]

You gon have the same energy about Harlem 30 years from now when it's white and affluent? You gonna tell your grandkids it was always wealthy and white?

San Juan Hill existed 30 years ago ?
yes both areas have gone through gentrification but UWS and UES have traditionally been the wealthy areas of manhattan. yall can be nitpicky all you want by bringing up stuff from decades and decades ago.
anyway i guarantee you just found out about san juan hill today because you wanted to make a point

did you know Harlem's black population has been declining since the 1950s?

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

San Juan Hill existed 30 years ago ?
yes both areas have gone through gentrification but UWS and UES have traditionally been the wealthy areas of manhattan. yall can be nitpicky all you want by bringing up stuff from decades and decades ago.
anyway i guarantee you just found out about san juan hill today because you wanted to make a point

did you know Harlem's black population has been declining since the 1950s?

I looked up the name "San Juan Hill" today but knew that UWS had a historical black population and that up until the 80s the UWS had a significant working and lower middle class population. My uncle lived on the border of the UWS and Harlem since the early 80's so I've heard quite a bit about this topic.

 

[Juven]

Seems like an easy way for them to manipulate numbers...Why not just improve the schools these kids will be coming from?

Because America doesn't care about the poor. The good schools are located in nice neighborhoods. Damn shame people don't what's going on out there