‘Weapons’ (dir. Zach Cregger) | Warner Bros (8/8)

[OneManGang]

As much as I liked this movie, we don’t need more. I feel it will cheapen it. Feel the same way about Sinners to a degree. We don’t need to know the hows or whys, that’s part of the appeal for me. Fans can fill in the blanks themselves.

I’ll watch of course but rarely do prequels turn out better for the franchise

 

[Black Excellence]

As much as I liked this movie, we don’t need more. I feel it will cheapen it. Feel the same way about Sinners to a degree. We don’t need to know the hows or whys, that’s part of the appeal for me. Fans can fill in the blanks themselves.

I’ll watch of course but rarely do prequels turn out better for the franchise

fukking thank you!

Halloween is the classic it is, because Michael Myers was some mysterious serial killer.

Jaws is the classic it is because it’s a fukking killer shark. Imagine if we got the origin story of how it became the size it was and where it really came from and the history of the battles it went through

Now you have people using the fact that directors want them to think and fill in blanks….as a plot hole

 

[storyteller]

fukking thank you!

Halloween is the classic it is, because Michael Myers was some mysterious serial killer.

Jaws is the classic it is because it’s a fukking killer shark. Imagine if we got the origin story of how it became the size it was and where it really came from and the history of the battles it went through

Now you have people using the fact that directors want them to think and fill in blanks….as a plot hole

This bolded drives me crazy. It's an epidemic. People need to be told exactly what and how everything works, because the concept of context clues is just too much

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

fukking thank you!

Halloween is the classic it is, because Michael Myers was some mysterious serial killer.

Jaws is the classic it is because it’s a fukking killer shark. Imagine if we got the origin story of how it became the size it was and where it really came from and the history of the battles it went through

Now you have people using the fact that directors want them to think and fill in blanks….as a plot hole

Most of horror icons were ruined when they tried to expand on backstory or give a motive.

 

[Black Excellence]

Most of horror icons were ruined when they tried to expand on backstory or give a motive.

Just wait till we get a Ghostface origin movie

 

[King Static X]

Just wait till we get a Ghostface origin movie

We learn the background and motive of every Ghostface at the end of each Scream movie lol. So a Ghostface origin movie wouldn't be necessary.

I personally don't care much at all for a Gladys prequel movie but her character has ZERO backstory. So I understand why some people would be interested in seeing that.

 

[Black Excellence]

We learn the background and motive of every Ghostface at the end of each Scream movie lol. So a Ghostface origin movie wouldn't be necessary.

I personally don't care much at all for a Gladys prequel movie but her character has ZERO backstory. So I understand why some people would be interested in seeing that.

That’s why I liken it to The Thing or Jaws. Even Halloween (I don’t remember if there was any backstory in the original it’s been a while).

The character is interesting so it makes sense why people are curious about the backstory but this is the start to ruining a character with prequels & unnecessary sequels. Goddamn just use your imagination about where she’s from and be done with it lol.

 

[King Static X]

That’s why I liken it to The Thing or Jaws. Even Halloween (I don’t remember if there was any backstory in the original it’s been a while).

The character is interesting so it makes sense why people are curious about the backstory but this is the start to ruining a character with prequels & unnecessary sequels. Goddamn just use your imagination about where she’s from and be done with it lol.

There was a little bit of backstory to Michael Myers in the original Halloween film but not much. Halloween sequels and reboots did end up giving too much backstory (and it was often convoluting).

 

[hex]

No offense to anyone but I don't understand how a horror movie being scary or not scary is a barometer for it's quality.

I haven't been scared by a movie since I was a pre-teen. The only movie I found unsettling past that (in terms of when I seen it, not when it came out) is the '78 "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers" which I seen around '97.

So I dunno. I judge a horror movie by the same merits (acting, writing, cinematography, etc.) as I do any other movie. Obviously originality goes a long way as well. I let a horror movie slide a lot more than pretty much any other genre (except maybe action) as long as it's creepy or if it's an interesting concept. "The Empty Man" for example. Or this.

Fred.

 

[King Static X]

No offense to anyone but I don't understand how a horror movie being scary or not scary is a barometer for it's quality.

I haven't been scared by a movie since I was a pre-teen. The only movie I found unsettling past that (in terms of when I seen it, not when it came out) is the '78 "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers" which I seen around '97.

So I dunno. I judge a horror movie by the same merits (acting, writing, cinematography, etc.) as I do any other movie. Obviously originality goes a long way as well. I let a horror movie slide a lot more than pretty much any other genre (except maybe action) as long as it's creepy or if it's an interesting concept. "The Empty Man" for example. Or this.

Fred.

Well, of course, you judge a horror movie by its acting, cinematography, writing and so on. However, you also have to judge it by the name of the subgenre: HORROR. Just like most people judge action movies based on... the action and most people judge comedy movies based on... the comedy. Duh.

Watching a horror movie, there's an expectation of being scared and/or creeped out. It goes without saying.

 

[Roid Jones]

No offense to anyone but I don't understand how a horror movie being scary or not scary is a barometer for it's quality.

I haven't been scared by a movie since I was a pre-teen. The only movie I found unsettling past that (in terms of when I seen it, not when it came out) is the '78 "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers" which I seen around '97.

So I dunno. I judge a horror movie by the same merits (acting, writing, cinematography, etc.) as I do any other movie. Obviously originality goes a long way as well. I let a horror movie slide a lot more than pretty much any other genre (except maybe action) as long as it's creepy or if it's an interesting concept. "The Empty Man" for example. Or this.

Fred.

 

[Black Excellence]

Well, of course, you judge a horror movie by its acting, cinematography, writing and so on. However, you also have to judge it by the name of the subgenre: HORROR. Just like most people judge action movies based on... the action and most people judge comedy movies based on... the comedy. Duh.

Watching a horror movie, there's an expectation of being scared and/or creeped out. It goes without saying.

Nah I disagree with that. A movie is a movie.

I always bring up The Dark Knight in these type of convos because it is a movie that transcends genres. On the surface it’s a comic book/superhero movie but the film in its totality is one of the greatest films ever regardless of a subgenre.

Weapons as a FILM, fukk horror sub-genre, as a film, it’s incredible. It blends multiple genres, creates multiple character building profiles & storytelling, great camerawork, great usage of intertwining characters.

Looking at a movie as just as a horror/comedy/etc just puts it in a box. One could say Annie Hall is a romance/comedy when it’s a great, innovative film that has romantic and comedic elements.

 

[hex]

Well, of course, you judge a horror movie by its acting, cinematography, writing and so on. However, you also have to judge it by the name of the subgenre: HORROR. Just like most people judge action movies based on... the action and most people judge comedy movies based on... the comedy. Duh.

Watching a horror movie, there's an expectation of being scared and/or creeped out. It goes without saying.

That's not the same thing.

An action sequence or fight scene can objectively be visually impressive. Look at the fight scenes in "The Raid" or the crazy sh*t Tom Cruise does.

Horror or being scared is a feeling. As a grown ass man I do not feel scared during a movie. I just don't, so it would be unfair to judge a horror movie by that metric.

Even earlier when I see "as long as it's creepy"....I don't mean if it scares me. I mean the mom hiding in the corner in "Hereditary". It was more like "that's a cool horror visual" than "I'm afraid".

Fred.

 

[storyteller]

That's not the same thing.

An action sequence or fight scene can objectively be visually impressive. Look at the fight scenes in "The Raid" or the crazy sh*t Tom Cruise does.

Horror or being scared is a feeling. As a grown ass man I do not feel scared during a movie. I just don't, so it would be unfair to judge a horror movie by that metric.

Even earlier when I see "as long as it's creepy"....I don't mean if it scares me. I mean the mom hiding in the corner in "Hereditary". It was more like "that's a cool horror visual" than "I'm afraid".

Fred.

I get what you mean. I watch horror more than anything, so I'm kinda desensitized to getting scared. I do think you can gauge the "quality" of a scare scene based on visuals, creativity, and some other elements.

I basically compare good scares to good joke punchlines. A comedian sets you up with an expectation, they build up the situation with brevity, and then the punchline is supposed to twist your expectation in a way that catches you off guard. For a scare, it's the same build up but with tension instead of brevity, and then the scare twists your expectation in a way that catches you off guard. I think that's why a lot of comedy writers have turned out to be great horror writers. The mechanics of scares and jokes are weirdly similar.

In short, it's build-up, build-up, build-up, and release. Whether that release is a scare or a laugh, if the catharsis pays off the building tension or brevity; that's a good joke or scare.

 

[King Static X]

That's not the same thing.

An action sequence or fight scene can objectively be visually impressive. Look at the fight scenes in "The Raid" or the crazy sh*t Tom Cruise does.

Horror or being scared is a feeling. As a grown ass man I do not feel scared during a movie. I just don't, so it would be unfair to judge a horror movie by that metric.

Even earlier when I see "as long as it's creepy"....I don't mean if it scares me. I mean the mom hiding in the corner in "Hereditary". It was more like "that's a cool horror visual" than "I'm afraid".

Fred.

Horror films generally don't "scare" me anymore as an adult (except for a few jumpscares here and there) but they should still make me feel "uneasy" and "uncomfortable".

That uneasiness and uncomfortable comes down to the horror aspect.