It won't be that, b/c they play in different conference. But hopefully they become top QB's of the future who are battling for SB's year in year out....
...But lose to whoever is the Pats QB of the future.
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It won't be that, b/c they play in different conference. But hopefully they become top QB's of the future who are battling for SB's year in year out....
...But lose to whoever is the Pats QB of the future.
So when Marcus leads his team down the field to give the Titans the lead late in the 4th quarter against the Jaguars, Colts, Bills, and Raiders, but all games the Titans lost because the defense couldn't get a stop, I can actually use that to boost Marcus's value?
The nerve to say I'm stat watching and then say something like that.
Most of the Titans losses this year are less than 6 points after Marcus usually puts us ahead before or in the 4th, seems like you're under valuing Marcus as well. He's the only thing going right for the Titans. Let's not pretend like Doug Martin hasn't been going on a tear. Most can't even name the Titans starting RB let alone their best receiver.
You have to take the bitter with the sweet. Almost doesn't count. Should I go on about the missed fg against Houston? The 24 point lead against Washington? Mike Evans case of the drops a few weeks ago? They're both balling but when you're talking about Most Valuable or Most Outstanding rookie, give me the guy with the stats AND results.
You loyal to your Pats lolIt won't be that, b/c they play in different conference. But hopefully they become top QB's of the future who are battling for SB's year in year out....
...But lose to whoever is the Pats QB of the future.
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not even close. These dudes have upside dont get me wrong but they wont be in the same universe as Brady and Manning.
That's why I said hopefully
not even close. These dudes have upside dont get me wrong but they wont be in the same universe as Brady and Manning.
That's why I said hopefully
Most people with brains no what you where saying breh.
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That's fine if you want to look at it that way, but Mariota's stats are better than Jameis, by a decent margin too IMO.
Higher passer rating by almost 10 points. More passing TD's, less interceptions, more rushing yards. Better completion percentage, the same yardage per completion. Two less games played. The only stats Jameis is winning is rushing TD's and overall turnovers
Doing all that with less to work with too.If you want to say Jameis is doing better in a team statistic, cool. If you want to say Jameis looks better "in person" cool. Marcus is doing it too is my point and in my personal opinion, a higher level.
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That's fine if you want to look at it that way, but Mariota's stats are better than Jameis, by a decent margin too IMO.
Higher passer rating by almost 10 points. More passing TD's, less interceptions, more rushing yards. Better completion percentage, the same yardage per completion. Two less games played. The only stats Jameis is winning is rushing TD's and overall turnovers
If you want to say Jameis is doing better in a team statistic, cool. If you want to say Jameis looks better "in person" cool. Marcus is doing it too is my point and in my personal opinion, a higher level.
Jameis is/was better in Pro Football Focus and QBR before this week's game. Have to see how they fair out afterwards. But in advanced statistics Jameis has been slightly better.
Also this week was the first game all of his WR/TE targets were healthy. Bucs really dont have a legit #3 wr either. Although Marcus has been throwing to mostly #2 and 3 wrs as well. So thats what makes what he's doing all the more impressive.
As the article I posted pointed out.
Winston's lows were pretty bad so they hurt his overall #s. However, since about week 5 or 6....Winston's had some of the best #s in the league. Mariota has a higher floor, I believe Winston has the higher ceiling.
They still have a game in Arizona left. They're losing.
Odell Beckham's team was 6-10 last year and he still won OROY.
Ok, cool....thanks for bringing apples to an orange conversation. W-L records follow coaches and QBs. In a conversation between Jameis and Marcus, give me the guy with the stats AND results.
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Winston legit got my bum ass Bucs in the playoff hunt lol. He clearly the better leader and signal caller
Mariotta still learning, he can't throw anything that isnt a slant/seam route, he straight though.
Mariotta still learning, he can't throw anything that isnt a slant/seam route, he straight though.
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1. No. 1 overall pick Jameis Winston is taking steps toward becoming a superstar QB.
Winston posted the best grade of his rookie season and was a large part in the Buccaneers’ downing of the Falcons this week. He again displayed some impressive passing and poise, as well as his very own movie-moment when he asked in the huddle who wanted to score the go-ahead TD before hitting Mike Evans for the game-winner.
As the year winds down, Winston is almost level with the end-of-season cumulative grade achieved by Teddy Bridgewater last season as the best rookie quarterback performance we have seen since the otherworldly class of 2012. He currently ranks No. 18 in our PFF grades, and if you removed his disastrous Week 1 performance against the Titans from the equation, he’d be approaching top-10 status in our grades.
Lavonte David, Jameis Winston fueling Bucs
Like I said...both are playing great. Gotta look deeper on the #s with Winston to see just how impressive he's played.
Winston posted the best grade of his rookie season and was a large part in the Buccaneers’ downing of the Falcons this week. He again displayed some impressive passing and poise, as well as his very own movie-moment when he asked in the huddle who wanted to score the go-ahead TD before hitting Mike Evans for the game-winner.
As the year winds down, Winston is almost level with the end-of-season cumulative grade achieved by Teddy Bridgewater last season as the best rookie quarterback performance we have seen since the otherworldly class of 2012. He currently ranks No. 18 in our PFF grades, and if you removed his disastrous Week 1 performance against the Titans from the equation, he’d be approaching top-10 status in our grades.
Lavonte David, Jameis Winston fueling Bucs
Like I said...both are playing great. Gotta look deeper on the #s with Winston to see just how impressive he's played.