Official '24-25 NY Knicks Offseason Thread

[The War Report]

Thibs wearing out his welcome. If we lose in the 1st round, he should be fired and if someone how manage to win this series and make the 2nd, the team is gonna be beat up and out steam and they lose in the 2nd round yet again.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

Yet folks want to downplay Brunson on black hole mode. This sh*t is unacceptable when you’re the f*cking points guard.

And Thibs gotta make plays for KAT. We know what Bodega can do, utilize him!

 

[Dem313wayz]

Yet folks want to downplay Brunson on black hole mode. This sh*t is unacceptable when you’re the f*cking points guard.

And Thibs gotta make plays for KAT. We know what Bodega can do, utilize him!

Problem is the midget Brunson can't feed the post with Ausar guarding him.

Can't do pick and roll effectively either. Cuz of midget Brunson you would have to eliminate a pick and pop near the sideline. Pistons can hedge hard and send Brunson near the sideline. Brunson gonna have a hard time getting that pass to Kat over the long arms of the Ausar

 

[Wargames]

Problem is the midget Brunson can't feed the post with Ausar guarding him.

Can't do pick and roll effectively either. Cuz of midget Brunson you would have to eliminate a pick and pop near the sideline. Pistons can hedge hard and send Brunson near the sideline. Brunson gonna have a hard time getting that pass to Kat over the long arms of the Ausar

Just do a screen, or run Payne and do the two PG system again. I know he got into foul trouble but fukk it they have wright and Kolek. Two PG’s would make it that it doesn’t matter who brings it up.

If Thibs wasn’t such a slow adapter he would have tried Wright in place of Hart before now. Like it’s playoff basketball, you’re suppose to make adjustments, in real time.

 

[Dem313wayz]

Just do a screen, or run Payne and do the two PG system again. I know he got into foul trouble but fukk it they have wright and Kolek. Two PG’s would make it that it doesn’t matter who brings it up.

If Thibs wasn’t such a slow adapter he would have tried Wright in place of Hart before now. Like it’s playoff basketball, you’re suppose to make adjustments, in real time.

Then the Knicks would be extremely small on defense. Knicks just have problems against us

 

[Wargames]

Then the Knicks would be extremely small on defense. Knicks just have problems against us

Wright is 6’5. Thibs has options his ass just doesn’t want to take them because he is so strict with his rotations.

If we had a better coach people wouldnt assume we didn’t have a 6’5 defensive PG who low-key is a better shooter than Hart.

 

[Spidey Man]

Fire Thibs. Anybody with eyes can see that Jalen Iverson isn't working. Thibs has done nothing to fix this. I'm not saying bench Brunson, but it's on Thibs to coach, and part of that is lineup changes. Start Mitch to present the next defense starting five. Play KAT at the 4 and let him be diet Jokic.

 

[storyteller]

Brunson's 4th in PPG and 6th in APG in the postseason so far (granted, the Lakers vs Minne isn't over yet, so that could shift slightly). He's scoring more than Cade, assisting the same amount, and turning the ball over less. If you think Jalen Brunson is the problem, I'm not sure what to tell you, but I disagree.

KAT's best minutes were probably when he paired with Mitch. Unfortunately, that was maybe five minutes long, and then Thibs never went back to it. Bridges was good for three-quarters but missed a bunch of open looks in crunch time. OG went from attacking Cade's defense in game one, to completely passive in game two. I do not believe that Brunson passing more was the magic bullet to solve that shyt.

Could the offense be designed to make life easier for Brunson and everyone else? Sure. But the best solution is better spacing.

Brunson/KAT pick and rolls should be run more; KAT should get opportunities to post up while Josh Hart sits out, so that he's not facing a PF/C double-team since bigs don't bother to guard Hart outside of the paint. As a matter of fact, Jalen Duren was so far off Hart in game one that he picked up two three-second violations. Wing stop's gotta be better. Plus, the bench can't be outscored 35-8.

 

[Derek Lee]

I never want to see the Deep at a Knicks game again

 

[Ironman]

I never want to see the Deep at a Knicks game again

No wonder they lost50, Joe Budden, The Deep that's too much bad juju

 

[Dem313wayz]

Brunson's 4th in PPG and 6th in APG in the postseason so far (granted, the Lakers vs Minne isn't over yet, so that could shift slightly). He's scoring more than Cade, assisting the same amount, and turning the ball over less. If you think Jalen Brunson is the problem, I'm not sure what to tell you, but I disagree.

KAT's best minutes were probably when he paired with Mitch. Unfortunately, that was maybe five minutes long, and then Thibs never went back to it. Bridges was good for three-quarters but missed a bunch of open looks in crunch time. OG went from attacking Cade's defense in game one, to completely passive in game two. I do not believe that Brunson passing more was the magic bullet to solve that shyt.

Could the offense be designed to make life easier for Brunson and everyone else? Sure. But the best solution is better spacing.

Brunson/KAT pick and rolls should be run more; KAT should get opportunities to post up while Josh Hart sits out, so that he's not facing a PF/C double-team since bigs don't bother to guard Hart outside of the paint. As a matter of fact, Jalen Duren was so far off Hart in game one that he picked up two three-second violations. Wing stop's gotta be better. Plus, the bench can't be outscored 35-8.

Yes Brunson is a huge problem. It's taking Brunson almost 8 seconds to get the ball past halfcourt. Then he dribbles the air out the ball. Passes it to someone with 5 seconds left. Nobody else can get into a rhythm on offense.

Same shyt that Harden Kobe and others would get killed for but Brunson doesn't

 

[storyteller]

Yes Brunson is a huge problem. It's taking Brunson almost 8 seconds to get the ball past halfcourt. Then he dribbles the air out the ball. Passes it to someone with 5 seconds left. Nobody else can get into a rhythm on offense.

Same shyt that Harden Kobe and others would get killed for but Brunson doesn't

Brunson's not the reason sets take forever to start. That's how Thibodeau's offense runs. The PG floats up top while the baseline wing comes up through a downscreen to receive the ball. Then the PG either swings the ball to the wing or takes a pick from the big man. It's a slow ass way to kick off possessions.

Once teams go into ball-denial, the sets ALWAYS take 10-14 seconds to start unless the Knicks are pushing in transition. Thibodeau teams have always needed stops to spark offense. His halfcourt sets have always relied on a lead ball-handler carrying the offense. That was Rose; then it was Butler for a while; and now it's Brunson.

 

[Wargames]

Brunson's not the reason sets take forever to start. That's how Thibodeau's offense runs. The PG floats up top while the baseline wing comes up through a downscreen to receive the ball. Then the PG either swings the ball to the wing or takes a pick from the big man. It's a slow ass way to kick off possessions.

Once teams go into ball-denial, the sets ALWAYS take 10-14 seconds to start unless the Knicks are pushing in transition. Thibodeau teams have always needed stops to spark offense. His halfcourt sets have always relied on a lead ball-handler carrying the offense. That was Rose; then it was Butler for a while; and now it's Brunson.

It was Randle too for a while. There was one year after the Rose injury when he had Nate Robinson doing it.

Like @ikbm said, it’s the same offense regardless of the players. If you squint its basically like watching the same players who been here the last few years.

 

[The War Report]

I’ve been telling y’all Jalen and Towns should be much deadlier than it has been. Towns is a shytty screener and Jalen doesn’t pass the fukking ball.

 

[BK The Great]

Would be happy if he joins the Knicks