FruitOfTheVale
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The album itself is a receipt. It in no small part opened up hip hop sampling to reach outside of funk records and it established instrumental hip hop albums as being more than just beat tapes.
What Did DJ Shadow Do With Sampling That Was so Different From Other Producers?
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The album itself is a receipt. It in no small part opened up hip hop sampling to reach outside of funk records and it established instrumental hip hop albums as being more than just beat tapes.
I'm not discrediting Endtroducing's dopeness. I'm discrediting its so-called influence on hip hop. Or him being this incredible sample-flipper in the vein or possibly ahead of a Prince Paul, Premo, Timbaland, etc (given the cac praise for Shadow). I need receipts for all this shyt.
Because anyone who's actually into hip hop and has dabbled in trip hop like myself would know that Endtroducing is more of a trip hop electronica album. In the vein of Bowery Electric like I said.
Exactly.
I think Bowery Electric, Massive Attack, Nellee Hooper and Portishead have some DOPE songs. But are they hip hop artists? Did they influence hip hop? Not even slightly.
And yes, Endtroducing was the cac college kids' album. If you were there you would know this. It still kinda is.
so you don't have a receipt. OK cool.
FruitOfTheVale
Superstar
All the instrumental hip hop classics you can name from the same period (including Psychoanalysis: What Is It?) and all the hip hop albums with similar production in the same period (Dr. Octagonecologyst, Lootpack, etc.) came out after Endtroducing. Name one that came out before it and I'll drop the point.
Dan The Automator and DJ Shadow were collaborators even back then though so they more than likely influenced each other.
drums, for one. his sampled shyt sounded real, they were 10/10 breaks and he made them sound amazing
theres just something about how that album sounds that makes it great. nothing he did was really ground breaking, hes a career bboy who used alot of the same breaks and equipment others did. he just took it to that other level
theres just something about how that album sounds that makes it great. nothing he did was really ground breaking, hes a career bboy who used alot of the same breaks and equipment others did. he just took it to that other level
LandryFieldsDad
All Star
A woman with long blond hair is driving on the highway the wind blows through her hair. As the camera gets closer to the woman a song by immortal technique plays
I hated hearing that on that commercial. I think commercials taint the songs imo.
How long til we get Immortal Technique giving songs to car companies?
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Insensitive
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Threads like this are the booth at it's finest.
Keep dropping knowledge brehs.
I'm curious though, I was under the impression that Public Enemy and the Bomb Squad
were also pioneers of that "as many samples as possible" production style that's built
pretty much entirely out of samples from other records, or am I mistaken ?
Keep dropping knowledge brehs.
I'm curious though, I was under the impression that Public Enemy and the Bomb Squad
were also pioneers of that "as many samples as possible" production style that's built
pretty much entirely out of samples from other records, or am I mistaken ?
Renegade47
Superstar
DJ Paul over any nikka mentioned in here
Piff Perkins
Veteran
I'll preface this by saying DJ Shadow is dope and Entroducing is an undeniable classic, perfect album. BUT I think this is a case of the typical white response to white people doing something that is unfamiliar to them: they love it while ignoring whatever black people were doing. I'd never take away from his accomplishments, that album defined an entire year of my life at one point. But we all know white people are more apt to love something if a white person does it.
Obviously Prince Paul and others have had a lot of success and acclaim too. Same with Madlib.
Obviously Prince Paul and others have had a lot of success and acclaim too. Same with Madlib.
Free White & 21
AAGang
This cac ain't did a damn thing that the bomb squad didn't already do YEARS before 
Low key Public Enemy birthed ALL the white uk hiphop based genres of the 90's
Low key Public Enemy birthed ALL the white uk hiphop based genres of the 90's
The way I see it, the sheer volume of samples he used set him apart. But he wasnt the only producer layering 10 + samples per track
Prince Paul, Beastie Boys, etc
Dude was beyond dope, but I never understood all that extra praise...
Example:
White person A "Hey have you ever heard DJ Shadow? Apparently he makes pieces of music consisting completely of old vinyl recordings. Its a brilliant example of plunderphonics, and he's a one of a kind artist."
Guiness even gave him a world record for making the first "completely sampled" album..
I mean isnt that how hip hop music usually is made?
Who gives A fukk about DJ Shadow? Entroducing is the quintessential 90s cac college kid album. It's barely a 'hip hop' album. It's more of an electronica trip hop album. Like some shyt Bowery Electric were doing back in the day.
That's not to knock Shadow. I've heard Entroducing before. It just seems to have no bearing on hip hop culture. The only time I ever hear about Shadow are from cacs with cursory hip hop knowledge.
I heard he invented that whole lane of instrumental based hip-hop SOLELY for consumption.
I've meant to ask this myself
Seems like from what I've read that he initiated that lane of content that your current guys on SoundCLoud do for fun