What do Black people GAIN from NOT voting?

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There’s a paternalistic thread that runs through most discussions of what black people hope to achieve by abstaining from voting. Those asking the question almost always frame it in a leading manner, as if to imply that not voting for Democrats would be inherently detrimental, operating on an assumption that no reply would ever offer a sound rationale for doing so. The question is never posed in good faith, the responses of black people rarely accepted as valid in their reasoning.

This is how the Democrats and their bootlickers view black people.

its always bad when we start thinking for ourselves it seems other groups get to apply tactics and weaponizing their votes to get what they want in the transaction but us, nah we gotta vote no matter what and be happy we get anything for it

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

We're in between a rock and a hard place and they know that.

And? I don’t get this notion where republicans are getting everything they want either. Voting is NOT a blank check.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It is a simple question. There's no "framing" around it.
What benefit do Black people gain from not voting?
You either have an answer or you don't.

Dudes wanna “wait” till the perfect time for democrats to come crawling. They won’t tell you that their plan involves you waiting like 4 presidential election cycles

“Our grand plan is to have republicans negotiate with us in 24 years”

Tariq Nasheed

• ☑︎#VoteDemocrat
• Dec 8, 2018
• grin lo fi hip hop nasheed smug tariq tariq nasheed

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

People are pretending the moon disappears in the daytime or something when they advocate for abstaining

They can’t even account for how other groups influence just magically doesn’t increase if black people stand aside

 

[Still Benefited]

I guess it seems like
Poliyics impact policies that impact our life. Some we take for granted.

Money is needed to a capitalistic society to get things we need

Wralthy people get into Politics like that guy Trump.
There are big bags released from the federal government through policies thwt effect stock, funding for business and homes

Trump and wralthy people likr him vote and believe me he respects him self.

Trump owns businesses,but lets keep it at the average joe.
Well my stocks were doing waaaay better under Trump. Gas prices werent as high,and neither were my groceries etc. I would say this is the case for the majority of the people in this thread. So are you telling me to vote for Trump if he comes up for reelection

Now obviously you can say Biden doesnt have control over global supply chain problems. And cant help it that Russia started an invasion. But thats kind of the point. Its mostly a crapshoot of global affairs and current macroeconomics that will effect how we live at any given time. When i was poor life was shyt no matter who the president was. Not being poor,,things are worst under Biden than they were trump. But not anything I dont feel like I cant handle. Its best to worry about keeping a healthy savings so you can navigate whatever figurehead they put in charge

 

[Still Benefited]

Let's go with this example.
If people stop buying cars, how would they get around?
How would people's kids get to where they needed to go?
How do you get your groceries home?
Public transportation is already crowded.
There's only so many ride share drivers, who drive people in cars they own.
Some people need to drive as part of their job, like taxi drivers for example.
You may drive the price of cars down, but you drive the cost of public transportation up.
No one is going to sell a car at a loss.
Even if the prices decrease, you still gotta dig in your pocket and buy the car.
If you stop buying cars, you still have to deal with the issue of transportation.
Not buying a car doesn't fix your problems, it compounds them.

So you cant think of any reasons why giving your vote repeatedly to one party,with little to no results. Could also compound your problems?

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

Think you can weaponize your vote brehs


nikkas really think politicians are like
"Wow we didn't win because these Coli nikkas withheld their vote we must do something about this"

 

[I Really Mean It]

It is a simple question. There's no "framing" around it.
What benefit do Black people gain from not voting?
You either have an answer or you don't.

Of course theres a framing in how the question is presented. One who asks this presupposes there is no benefit from withholding a vote for Democrats, so a response from a black voter who abstains - however merited their reasons - is automatically dismissed. Look at how every thread of this sort ends up. You have a bunch of pompous bootlickers talking down to the people who give their reasons for not voting. It’s happening in this very thread.

 

[I Really Mean It]

Think you can weaponize your vote brehs


nikkas really think politicians are like
"Wow we didn't win because these Coli nikkas withheld their vote we must do something about this"

Think this isn’t how political trades have transacted in every functioning democracy?

 

[FeverPitch2]

Critical thinking comes into play here.
Like I said earlier, I'm from the D, an almost all Black city.
The population was 93% Black at one point.
We had mostly Black, all Democratic leadership, with a Black mayor in office for 40 straight years.
In those 40 years, the Black leadership was both complacent and corrupt.
They squandered the resources and the great spirit of the citizens, making our city the laughingstock of America when other cities were in far more dire straits.

With that poor performance as part of my history, does that mean that the opposite party is the answer?
While democrats are definitely guilty of "benign neglect" as Daniel Patrick Moynihan called it in his memo to President Nixon, the modern Republican track record is lined with rust instead of gold.
Let's be real. They tend to fukk the country up when they lead.
That's before we even get to their attitudes about and handling of Black folks.
Politically, we have to think of ourselves as both Black Americans and as Americans overall when forming a political strategy.

 

[FeverPitch2]

So you cant think of any reasons why giving your vote repeatedly to one party,with little to no results. Could also compound your problems?

I definitely can. If you read my other responses in this thread, that would clear.
Two things can be true at once.

 

[FeverPitch2]

Of course theres a framing in how the question is presented. One who asks this presupposes there is no benefit from withholding a vote for Democrats, so a response from a black voter who abstains - however merited their reasons - is automatically dismissed. Look at how every thread of this sort ends up. You have a bunch of pompous bootlickers talking down to the people who give their reasons for not voting. It’s happening in this very thread.

Any framing of that question comes from you.

 

[Man On Fire]

Serious question.
I am genuinely interested in your philosophy.
I wanna talk to the brehs and brehettes, not argue.

Righteousness

 

[OfTheCross]

Leverage within the party.

I think that could work if, for example...

All Blacks support a candidate in the primaries that offered Reparations, for instance.

And abstained for voting for the nominee if that candidate doesn't win.

That sends a clear message as to what is wanted.

The downside is that the other party that definitely won't give reparations will win. Or the party you're currently trying to reform decides to move on without you because Reparations is a losing issue nationally.

That's just one example of how this could go down

 

[Prevail]

Serious question.
I am genuinely interested in your philosophy.
I wanna talk to the brehs and brehettes, not argue.

Dignity and self-respect in some cases