What do you expect from next gen consoles in terms of graphics?

[hex]

Why do you guys love to downplay console graphics??? It's already obvious closed box =/= PC.

All on PS3. I don't see the reason you guys are gloating about owning a top of the line PC when if these same games were to be played in true 1080P with some anti aliasing it would look insane. Y'all acting like these same games using ps4 hardware won't be impressive for it's hardware.

What does any of that have to do with anything that I said? Or hell, the thread in general? Go read the thread man.

Unless the game is 20 hours of you staring at a single face floating on the screen, it's obviously not indicative of anything remotely resembling a game.

Does the face look amazing? Of course it does, the entire console is pushing to generate it. So, if you expect an entire game to look like that, it ain't happening. That's all I'm saying.

Fred.

 

[Malta]

If this face rendered by Quantic Dream really is possible on the PS4, then all bets are off in terms of photorealism coming sooner than expected.

PlayStation 4 Quantic Dream - 'Old Man' Tech Demo PlayStation Meeting 2013 - YouTube

You can't watch this demo and tell me that isn't a QUANTUM LEAP from what we have had so far in terms of graphics. I thought tech like this would only be available in the 2020s but if the PS4 is able to render facial graphics as incredible as was shown today, then we might see Avatar quality games by the end of this gen in 2020. That would be MONUMENTAL!!!

this looks damn close to photorealism IMO

That is the Ps3 facial demo from 2005, rendering a face with nothing else is nothing special.


@Fatboi1, "if" those games could be played in 1080p? They still wouldn't have the lighting, effects or sheer geometry moving on screen that PC games have. You're talking really irrational and the whole "closed box" stuff is really overblown, because every last port looks better on PC. If those games were on PC, they'd be in 1080p instead of sub 720p, they'd run locked at 60fps with more geometry, lighting and effects on screen.

When the next gen systems drop, dudes with 670s will be running the ports at a higher framerate.

 

[Fatboi1]

What does any of that have to do with anything that I said? Or hell, the thread in general? Go read the thread man.

Unless the game is 20 hours of you staring at a single face floating on the screen, it's obviously not indicative of anything remotely resembling a game.

Does the face look amazing? Of course it does, the entire console is pushing to generate it. So, if you expect an entire game to look like that, it ain't happening. That's all I'm saying.

Fred.

It has everything to do with what you said. Your reply to that guys post was on some "there won't be good looking games on PS4/Nextbox with that facial technology" when that's clearly shortsighted. LA Noire already looks half as good as that on consoles. I don't see why it's hard to believe that next gen consoles will have amazing visuals when you got talented devs working the console to the metal. I'm still being amazed by PS3 games and people on here on some "Crysis 3 looks better on my GTX 680"

 

[Liquid]

It has everything to do with what you said. Your reply to that guys post was on some "there won't be good looking games on PS4/Nextbox with that facial technology" when that's clearly shortsighted. LA Noire already looks half as good as that on consoles. I don't see why it's hard to believe that next gen consoles will have amazing visuals when you got talented devs working the console to the metal. I'm still being amazed by PS3 games and people on here on some "Crysis 3 looks better on my GTX 680"

That's because you dont play on the PC.

The last game that did "WOW" me was L.A. Noire, but that was mostly because of how Rockstar had that facial animation going...it was literally jaw dropping to me.

 

[Fatboi1]

Alfred Molina (Dr Octopus) Full PS3 demo E3 2005 - YouTube


That is the Ps3 facial demo from 2005, rendering a face with nothing else is nothing special.


@Fatboi1, "if" those games could be played in 1080p? They still wouldn't have the lighting, effects or sheer geometry moving on screen that PC games have. You're talking really irrational and the whole "closed box" stuff is really overblown, because every last port looks better on PC. If those games were on PC, they'd be in 1080p instead of sub 720p, they'd run locked at 60fps with more geometry, lighting and effects on screen.

When the next gen systems drop, dudes with 670s will be running the ports at a higher framerate.

You are not enlightening me about this stuff. In case you didn't know, I have a PC and occasionally post in the PC gaming thread about how FC3 looks amazing on PC compared to consoles.

You just saw Killzone 4 on PS4 looking like Crysis 3 on a high end PC and you're still trying to say it doesn't look all that?? That's my whole point. You guys are saying the obvious. This "PC ports will run better" post doesn't edify me at all. I know all this because I have a PC that plays games. PS4 games will look great, it's as simple as that. I don't need to hear people tell me how it would look better on PC.. OF course it would it's upgraded hardware. That's like saying if you sleep on a queen bed you'd have more space to stretch than on a twin. That doesn't mean a nikka can't sleep good on a twin.

 

[Liquid]

You are not enlightening me about this stuff. In case you didn't know, I have a PC and occasionally post in the PC gaming thread about how FC3 looks amazing on PC compared to consoles.

You just saw Killzone 4 on PS4 looking like Crysis 3 on a high end PC and you're still trying to say it doesn't look all that?? That's my whole point. You guys are saying the obvious. This "PC ports will run better" post doesn't edify me at all. I know all this because I have a PC that plays games. PS4 games will look great, it's as simple as that. I don't need to hear people tell me how it would look better on PC.. OF course it would it's upgraded hardware. That's like saying if you sleep on a queen bed you'd have more space to stretch than on a twin. That doesn't mean a nikka can't sleep good on a twin.

Why are you being so defensive? We are mostly talking tech and how out of touch some people are in here as to what to expect

 

[Fatboi1]

That's because you dont play on the PC.

The last game that did "WOW" me was L.A. Noire, but that was mostly because of how Rockstar had that facial animation going...it was literally jaw dropping to me.

I have you on my steam list right now online. Jay4321?

Do you guys read these forums?? How'd you miss me posting a Far Cry 3 pic yesterday in response to that clown HHL4E about me having a gaming PC that was less than $500?

 

[Malta]

You just saw Killzone 4 on PS4 looking like Crysis 3 on a high end PC and you're still trying to say it doesn't look all that??

I had to stop there, it doesn't look like Crysis, and the fact you think it does means you're not even trying to be objective.

 

[Liquid]

I have you on my steam list right now online. Jay4321?

Do you guys read these forums?? How'd you miss me posting a Far Cry 3 pic yesterday in response to that clown HHL4E about me having a gaming PC that was less than $500?

Who are you?

I am a part of so many gaming communities already that I have no idea who is who anymore

edit: ahhh coolbgdog

 

[Fatboi1]

I had to stop there, it doesn't look like Crysis, and the fact you think it does means you're not even trying to be objective.

Did you see the HQ video? You're telling me this game doesn't look remotely as good as Crysis 3 on a mid range-high end PC?? I must be smoking some crack because they look damn near identical to me both in scale.

 

[Malta]

Did you see the HQ video? You're telling me this game doesn't look remotely as good as Crysis 3 on a mid range-high end PC?? I must be smoking some crack because they look damn near identical to me both in scale.

You have a $500 PC and you're trying to tell me what Crysis looks like on a high end rig?

 

[Camammal]

Cats with non gaming PCs trying to kick knowledge

 

[Liquid]

I have you on my steam list right now online. Jay4321?

Do you guys read these forums?? How'd you miss me posting a Far Cry 3 pic yesterday in response to that clown HHL4E about me having a gaming PC that was less than $500?

then you should know better man...

 

[Swagnificent]

The face looks good yes but it's just a face floating on an empty screen. It's not a game, there is no physics to worry about, or enemy AI, or environment, or collision detection, or anything, other than a face to render.

If you think a whole game is going to run looking like that you're in for disappointment.

Fred.

I actually think it'll be possible 4-5 years into this gen. Once developers get a handle of the hardware, they should be able to do some amazing things considered the system will have 8 GB of RAM. Just think about what developers were able to do over the lifespan of the PS3 which had just 256MB for video.

That is a HUGE difference. If the games we saw today is at the bottom of what the PS4 is capable of then we shouldn't be surprised by graphics like that being possible.

 

[Swagnificent]

Alfred Molina (Dr Octopus) Full PS3 demo E3 2005 - YouTube


That is the Ps3 facial demo from 2005, rendering a face with nothing else is nothing special.


@Fatboi1, "if" those games could be played in 1080p? They still wouldn't have the lighting, effects or sheer geometry moving on screen that PC games have. You're talking really irrational and the whole "closed box" stuff is really overblown, because every last port looks better on PC. If those games were on PC, they'd be in 1080p instead of sub 720p, they'd run locked at 60fps with more geometry, lighting and effects on screen.

When the next gen systems drop, dudes with 670s will be running the ports at a higher framerate.

You gaming PC nerds are something else. I don't give a shyt if PC's will always be ahead of console graphics. You lames can waste your time putting together a computer to play games with. Real nikkas ain't got time for that nerd shyt. I play just 2 games. Madden and NBA 2K. The PS4 will produce graphics that are VASTLY superior to what the current gen consoles do.

I could care less whether ya'll nikkas ain't impressed by these graphics. I was BLOWN AWAY by these demos. They look at movie CGI quality from the early 00s. That is HUGE. It means that by the end of this generation we'll have games approaching the quality of Avatar. That seems possible if we see the same growth over the console cycle that we saw with this generation.

The future is bright for console gaming.