What do you expect from next gen consoles in terms of graphics?

[Orbital-Fetus]

this is done with the gtx 690 for PC right now.
i have no idea what the next gen is gonna look like but this is amazing.

 

[Malta]

this is done with the gtx 690 for PC right now.
i have no idea what the next gen is gonna look like but this is amazing.

VGN - NEXT GEN GRAPHICS - WATCH NOW - NEW DAWN TECH VIDEO - YouTube

Just took this -

 

[daze23]

Just took this -

is that your screenshot?

I was gonna download that demo, but it said the minimum was 670 SLI

I might try to run it anyway... (I got a gtx 660)

 

[Malta]

is that your screenshot?

I was gonna download that demo, but it said the minimum was 670 SLI

I might try to run it anyway... (I got a gtx 660)

Yeah, that's mine, another -

I get around 30-35fps with it, it drops down to 24 in spots, but I only have 580s.

 

[daze23]

downloading now

lemme get my fire extinguisher ready

 

[courtdog]

With reports building everyday on the new Xbox and PS4, I just wanna get a feel what everyone else is expecting. Video game graphics have advanced immensely in such a short period of time. Its now been 7 years since the current gen consoles dropped. Alot of time in the technology world.

Do ya'll think games with graphics as real as this will be possible on the next gen consoles?

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I know both are fake but maybe 5-6 years in to the PS4 and Xbox 720, do you think graphics like this will be possible?

Should be close imo. I played Halo 2 on PC and it played totally different than the xbox version.
Enemies were smarter, everything felt different. Games this gen will change that way more so than graphically.. even tho graphics will of course see an upgrade as well
But when you see how the environments react more realistically to everything, that will bring out the realism.

Similar to how NBA2k series took huge steps this gen because they was able to add everyone's real shooting style/mannerisms into the game.
Next gen, expect Refs with personalities.. more crowd interactions/etc.

 

[daze23]

best looking 15 fps I've ever seen

 

[Leasy]

sure they do, but they also have to make it scalable. but they do design games to run at the highest settings on the newest cards (and sometimes a little beyond that)

it's just the nature of 3-D engines that makes it easy to scale. you can just turn stuff off and/or lower the resolution/draw-distance/grass density/etc. that's not something that really holds back those that can play at higher settings

at least as far as graphics. there are things that will be possible with more cpu power and memory. those things could really change the nature of some games. but again, a lot of that type of stuff is already seen in PC exclusive games

Refuse to believe that. Most PC games are specifically developed with gaming systems in mind which is the reason why PC gaming will be forever held back. Think about it, you will never see a PC game look light years ahead of a console game ever just not feasible for the market or developer.

If developers strictly developed for PC gaming first; next gen would of been here 2 years ago.

 

[Ayo]

this is done with the gtx 690 for PC right now.
i have no idea what the next gen is gonna look like but this is amazing.

VGN - NEXT GEN GRAPHICS - WATCH NOW - NEW DAWN TECH VIDEO - YouTube

These tech demos mean close to nothing. In real world conditions, memory management, size of installation media etc etc blah blah blah will all contribute to making that shyt look worse.

We're not going to get any kind of graphics leap anytime soon.

These companies are trying to keep costs down and that DLC churning. They could give two shyts about pushing graphics. If anything blame the iPad/iPhone and iOS in general for taking the focus off of graphics. Is that better for us game play wise? Who the fukk knows. All I know is that I had a lot more fun playing Super Mario Brothers 1 when I was younger than I do now with Borderlands 2.

/rant

Graphics? Man we talking about Graphics.

 

[Swagnificent]

I dont find games looking like real life desirable

The cutting edge graphics of today are fine IMHO. Physics and shadowing are really where I'd like to see the most advancement.

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That said I welcome any advancements

Alot of people say that but I never believe them. Real life graphics are the holy grail of video games. You can't tell me that you wouldn't enjoy playing a game with graphics as real as the Matrix. Being able to jack your nervous system into another world that is indistinguishable from this one, except for the fact that you could be a God in it.

I think once that technology becomes available. Which will be sooner rather than later, then EVERYONE on earth will become a gamer. Stuff like that would allow people to live out whatever dream/fantasy they have.

 

[2gunsup]

Refuse to believe that. Most PC games are specifically developed with gaming systems in mind which is the reason why PC gaming will be forever held back. Think about it, you will never see a PC game look light years ahead of a console game ever just not feasible for the market or developer.

If developers strictly developed for PC gaming first; next gen would of been here 2 years ago.

Crytek wants to have a word with you.

 

[courtdog]

Refuse to believe that. Most PC games are specifically developed with gaming systems in mind which is the reason why PC gaming will be forever held back. Think about it, you will never see a PC game look light years ahead of a console game ever just not feasible for the market or developer.

If developers strictly developed for PC gaming first; next gen would of been here 2 years ago.

Have you seen the PC version of Battlefield 3 bruh bruh?
You probably seen a clip/scene where it looked similar?
Somebody, show this fool what BF3 looks like on PC, I wouldn't know where to look for the "right" pic/vid.

 

[hex]

Refuse to believe that. Most PC games are specifically developed with gaming systems in mind which is the reason why PC gaming will be forever held back. Think about it, you will never see a PC game look light years ahead of a console game ever just not feasible for the market or developer.

If developers strictly developed for PC gaming first; next gen would of been here 2 years ago.

The main leg up computer games have is mods.

So let's say "Game A" comes out on console and PC. Looks great on console. On PC there is generally a whole community of people, for virtually any half way popular game, that will sit there and tweak every aspect of the graphics you can think of. You can't mod console games. They are basically "as is".

Same goes for the hardware. A 360 is a 360 for 8 years. If you run the same game on a 360, and a computer with a GTX 690, the PC version is gonna blow the console one out of the water. The only thing developing specifically for PC would do is widen the gap.

Fred.

 

[Swagnificent]

it's not just that. even the cats that do special fx don't render that shyt in 'real time'. they got some bad-ass computers, but it still probably takes days to render some of that stuff

None of that stuff is being done on a single computer.....they use render farms with the best cooling systems possible. I'm not saying we won't see any big advancements but its going to take alot more than computers becoming more powerful.

They would have to find a way to put 10 - 15 powerful computers into 1 for your average consumer.


EDIT: Also none of the stuff in the movies are interactive, meaning less calculations than video games have to do( I do game programming as a hobby ). Theres a ton of calculations that go into the littliest stuff ( angle/speed/collision detection, what to do after objects collide ). This is part of the reason why trailers look better than the actual gameplay.

exactly

so what takes millions of dollars and weeks of rendering today......will take hundreds of dollars and seconds of rendering in 10 years.......this is how exponentials work......right now the world's most powerful supercomputer does about 17 PetaFlops of calculations per second.....in laymen terms that is 17 quadrillion calculations per second......in 10-15 years time.......your laptop will be capable of doing 17 quadrillion calculations per second.....that means that we'll all have the capability on our laps to do what today takes rooms filled with computer processors

if you don't believe me just look at this story from intel Intel teraflop chip matches supercomputer performance - Telegraph

The chip, dubbed Knights Corners, runs at up to one teraflops, meaning it can complete one trillion floating point calculations per second. Intel said it was “the first demonstration of a single processing chip capable of achieving such a performance level”.

If you are keeping up, 15 years ago, the worlds fastest supercomputers that filled up multiple rooms were only running at 1 teraflops. That means in 15 years we were able to shrink what required entire rooms into 1 chip. We'll go that again in the next 10 years. The computer chip of 2023 will be able to do 1 petaflops. That is what opens up the chances of getting video game graphics being rendered in real time that are on the level of what we see in movies today.

Its not a question of IF video game graphics will be on the level of movie CGI, its only a question of WHEN. I'm saying that by the mid-2020s, the computer processing power will be there so that the common $1,000 computer will be capable of doing what today takes the most power supercomputers. And the reason I can be confident in that prediction is because we've already done it many times over. That is the power of Moore's law and it doesn't look to be letting up. It only looks to be speeding ahead.

 

[Leasy]

Crytek wants to have a word with you.

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Are you considerting something of this nature graphically?
I recall developers of this game stating that Xbox720/PS4 won't be as graphically as this. I find that hard to believe.

Have you seen the PC version of Battlefield 3 bruh bruh?
You probably seen a clip/scene where it looked similar?
Somebody, show this fool what BF3 looks like on PC, I wouldn't know where to look for the "right" pic/vid.

Seen and it is impressive but imagine if developers took the time like a console version of game what the graphics/gameplay will be like.