What do you expect from next gen consoles in terms of graphics?

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And one of these days they'll be right. You idiots are following a logical fallacy. Because they were wrong in the past doesn't mean they'll be wrong now. Do your own research and then determine whether these projections of the capabilities of technology are possible.

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"One of these days they'll be right" just because they've never been right is a logical fallacy.

People have given you several facts based reasons why things won't change any time soon. Including direct quotes from industry heavy weights who aren't impressed with the progression of consoles.

You're the only idiot in this thread. You keep on spouting off about Moore's Law as if it's a fukking crystal ball, without taking anything else into account. Moore's Law has existed since the 70s, yet people have literally never once been right in estimating how powerful the next gen of consoles will be. Literally not one time, in 30+ years.

You keep on talking about "mid 2020s" as if there isn't 10+ years worth of x factors that could derail the shyt you're talking about. Like the economy may not even support a console in 2025 that can produce photo realistic graphics. Like, Sony, MS, whoever might not be in a position to take advantage of whatever cutting edge tech you're suggesting because it might not be financially feasible to mass produce it. Whether or not the tech is "supposed" to exist then has nothing to do with anything. If it does exist it'll probably only be in high-end PCs and consoles will be another 5-10 years behind it.

Fred.
 

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A $400 console that does 5 petaflops and has 5 terabytes of RAM will be POSSIBLE in 2025. That is simple Moore's law. You can argue with Tim Sweeney about whether that'll be enough to produce photo-realistic graphics. Don't argue with me that we won't have that much computing power in 2025.

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You in here talking about 5 petaflops in 12 years, the fukk?

As of June 2011, the 500 fastest supercomputers in the world combine for 58.9 petaFLOPS of computing power.

500 of the fastest supercomputers in the world COMBINED for 58.9 petaflops, yet in 12 years you think 5 petaflops will be possible for a $400 home console. The 360 was 355 GFLOPS, the 720 is rumored to be around 1.5 TFLOPS, there is an 8 year gap between the hardware release dates and in theory the 720 is only 4-5 times more powerful in raw computing, yet you seem to think in 12 years we're going to see consoles around 4000-5000 times more powerful :russ:
 

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you don't play pc games. Before sleeping dogs there hasn't been a significant jump in quality that made people say WOW since Crysis. L.A. Noire was also pretty big, but that was more Rockstar trying something nobody else had before.

Even as crazy as BF3 appeared to be, it really wasnt a "WOW" moment. That game did have some ridiculous character animation tho.

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:lolbron::russ:hahahaha you say i don't play pc games while im playing a pc game you dufus.

like i said... every generation has a giant leap in graphics this gen won't be any different
 

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I dont think we'll see much difference.

This will be the smallest jump from current to next gen that we've seen yet. We already have 1080P, so things cant get much better than that. Maybe more detail and smoother textures is about it.

On top of that, the more powerful the system the more TIME, MONEY, it's gonna cost to develop games. Most companies aren't gonna push too much b/c they'll probably claim they're losing money.

you sound like an idiot.

people said the same when ps2 was dropping * we already have dvd and 3d graphics ps2 can't be much better *

new consoles will have 4k which boutta shyt on 1080p.

to sum it all up you know nothing, you're saying devlopers won't be able to afford it :birdman:

developers are the one's begging for more powerful consoles so they can push graphics to the limit.
 

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Lets see....who should I believe? some clown on a message board or Epics's Tim Sweeney? not a difficult choice at all

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People in the industry say a lot of stupid shyt in order to bolster the industry. Go fukking figure. For the PS2 we were promised all types of wild shyt. Are you that naive?

It's like expecting the owner of the St Louis Rams to not say the Rams can win the Super Bowl in 10-15 years.

Clown? Don't be a fukking moron Breh. Your first console was the PS1. Let the nikkas who have seen shyt develop from the jump talk their grown man talk. You Pokemon playing son of a Pikachu.

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you sound like an idiot.

people said the same when ps2 was dropping * we already have dvd and 3d graphics ps2 can't be much better *

new consoles will have 4k which boutta shyt on 1080p.

to sum it all up you know nothing, you're saying devlopers won't be able to afford it :birdman:

developers are the one's begging for more powerful consoles so they can push graphics to the limit.

4K ain't gonna be the standard for a long, long time. If ever. Hell, 1080p ain't even the standard for consoles yet. There is still people that don't even know what a Blu-Ray is.

And developers are asking for specific improvements. Like more RAM. Small shyt like that. You could give them the most powerful console from 10 years in the future and they'd still have the same size budget as they did last gen, and probably drop a 5 hour game that costs $60.

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:lolbron::russ:hahahaha you say i don't play pc games while im playing a pc game you dufus.

like i said... every generation has a giant leap in graphics this gen won't be any different
you have nothing to back that up. This will be the smallest "leap" ever for graphics. I am done going back and forth with you morons. I have posted year by year breakdowns, videos for 2 of the best looking games this generation in their own right, and examples as to why it wont be a huge. You with your questionable posts in the past and "Swagnificent" who seemingly pulls things out of his ass are just going with the old "It happens all the time" like if that's some sort of mystery you two broke.

@Malta and @hexagram23 can keep breaking you two down if they wish. I am done explaining what it is. I already have examples as to why it wont be a big leap. In fact if the "leaps" are always going to be this huge, then why was Resident Evil 4 which was released on the Gamecube in late 2004 got an "HD" update and still looked respectable on the current gen consoles? Don't all generations have HUGE leaps in which would require more than a simple touch up to look nice? ICO and SOTC, God Of War and several others got the same treatment this gen. I assume this would be the case for this upcoming generation as well to bump up the classics released to full native 1080p and get you fools thinking that its such a much better experience. The retuns have been diminishing since the start of this console generation (2007). You cats are going to be the same ones hyping up the fact that "Wind Waker" looks incredible when all signs point to the fact that its probably just going to look like this:



Art is the most important to that game...something I already stated.

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4K ain't gonna be the standard for a long, long time. If ever. Hell, 1080p ain't even the standard for consoles yet. There is still people that don't even know what a Blu-Ray is.

And developers are asking for specific improvements. Like more RAM. Small shyt like that. You could give them the most powerful console from 10 years in the future and they'd still have the same size budget as they did last gen, and probably drop a 5 hour game that costs $60.

Fred.
Did that fool just say 4K?

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That's ALL I needed to know!
 

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Next gen will be a HUGE leap what are you guys saying? Far Cry 3 on my PC is a huge leap in graphics compared to the xbox version. That is big enough for me. Hell today I popped in UC2 and that game looked fugly to me.
 

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4K ain't gonna be the standard for a long, long time. If ever. Hell, 1080p ain't even the standard for consoles yet. There is still people that don't even know what a Blu-Ray is.

And developers are asking for specific improvements. Like more RAM. Small shyt like that. You could give them the most powerful console from 10 years in the future and they'd still have the same size budget as they did last gen, and probably drop a 5 hour game that costs $60.

Fred.

the same was said about HD. they said HD is pointless it wont be the standard for a long time yet here we are. sony are going to be pushing 4K tv's next year you think they're not gonna include it in there console which will last another 7 years? smh

like i said every console there is a giant graphics leap nothing will change with this generation. past proves future. take a seat
 

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4k tv's drop end of this year clown :what:


as i said in 2005 people were liek HD.... ARE YOU SERIOUS NO ONE WANTS HD :damn:

now look.

broke basted you think sony not gonna future proof there console.
You have no idea how dumb you look. If this is your attempt at trolling then try another angle.
 

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You have no idea how dumb you look. If this is your attempt at trolling then try another angle.

are you really trying to say sony... that will be dropping 4k tv's will not be implementing that in there consoles which they expect to live for the next 7years :dwillhuh:

sony push there entertainment technology via playstation this has always happened, dvd, bluray, 3d etc
 

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ain't no way in heck that console's gonna run games at that resolution :rudy:
 

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Next gen will be a HUGE leap what are you guys saying? Far Cry 3 on my PC is a huge leap in graphics compared to the xbox version. That is big enough for me. Hell today I popped in UC2 and that game looked fugly to me.

U just got new PC gamer fever g...cause no way in hell Uncharted 2 can look fugly...lol...I still have games from previous gen that dont look fugly .a good looking game is a good looking game...it def wont be a HUGE leap...it will be a nice leap..nothing more..nothing less..PC games dont look THAT much better to say a game like Uncharted looks fugly...look at a game like Max Payne 3...the console versions dont even look much worse than the PC unless u have a high end graphics card..
 
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