This is a case where nikkas letting stats influence their decisions
What does Isiah Thomas do better than Chris Paul?
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eastside313
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Oh so whoever scores the most points is the better player?
Do your history on zeek before the bad boys. When he played uptempo style and was dropping 25-30 with 10-15 assists on a regular basis. Without jacking up 10 threes and getting 38 screens to get a shot off.
And u said defenses wasnt better back then
You can't even touch nobody now
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who wins 1v1 in their prime¿
that's always the right answer+
that's always the right answer+
He beat Lardy Bird, Michael Jordan, & Magic Johnson in 1 playoff stretch
Oh so whoever scores the most points is the better player?
Do your history on zeek before the bad boys. When he played uptempo style and was dropping 25-30 with 10-15 assists on a regular basis. Without jacking up 10 threes and getting 38 screens to get a shot off.
And u said defenses wasnt better back then
You can't even touch nobody now
Not necessarily, but it stands to reason that Curry is a better scorer than Zeke since he scores as much but on drastically higher efficiency while being responsibile for creating the large majority of his shots off the dribble. Curry is the best off ball player to ever play the position so him getting screens isn't a knock. More a testament to his ability to bury teams from deep if given the slightest of space, his tremendous footwork and court awareness. He's also the best off the dribble three point shooter to ever play this game and can cook virtually anyone 1on1 so his creation abilities shouldn't be doubted. Reggie Miller was outstanding in the 90's. Give him some great handles, better court vision, crafty finishing and how great is he? Thats Steph
Zeke before the bad boys never averaged 25-30 ppg, career high was 22.9 on the '83 Pistons who played at an even faster pace than this years Warriors
You can be physical with players off ball. Can't beat the fukk out of them with little repreccusion like back in the day but that's not even basketball. What has changed thats aided defenses is the legalization of zone defense. Its strategically easier for teams to gameplan against superstars. Guys like Shaq and T Mac have been vocal about how the rule has affected the game
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And you can argue that Curry's ability to warp defenses off ball in addition to his playmaking in the P&R influences the play of his teammates as much as Isaiah's high assist totals. So Steph Vs IT shouldn't be seen as a crazy comparison either. Era bias is very strong in these type of discussions it seems
can't tell if thread is serious....
It is. In reality this is a very good comparison but accolades, narratives and era nostalgia are getting in the way of what should be a straight up skills evaluation. Chris Paul has performed at a high level in the postseason, cannot tell me that his play hasn't been good enough to lead a team to a title especially in 2008. Not his fault that his teams generally haven't been up to task. That version of Paul was clearly better than IT in '89 but he went home in the 2nd round while IT won the chip because his supporting cast was better.
eastside313
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I didn't say zeke avg 25-30 I said dropping it on a regular basis. Which is what a player had to do to avg 23 a game and zeke was still avg double digit assist. I don't give a shyt what t Mac got to say. No hand checking and not being able to body the offensive player is a huge difference in today's game. I got more respect for the player that can get loose off his handle routinely or his quickness over somebody that is running over 3 screens to get a shot off.
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The coli = group think central.This is actually a good question.These nikkas dikkriding cuz zeke won titles.I saw someone refer to zekes 80's stats like the pace of play back then wasn't high as hell and inflated everybody's stats.If you measure paul and thomas up only thing I can say zeke did better was take over games scoring wise and finish at the rim.Paul does everything else at the pg position better.
DIMES
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Both are 6 foot 1 but Isiah looks a couple pounds smaller and Paul is Def slower but don't knock Chris Paul he's a good player minus the flopping.
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Cp3 is 5'11 bruh
Common knowledge
DIMES
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Chris is the better player but he has small playoff succes .
Literally if co won a ring or two he would be considered top 5 pg all time easily
Literally if co won a ring or two he would be considered top 5 pg all time easily
In that sense I guess, but IT wasn't a dominant scorer like that. Could put up points but often on mediocre efficiency which is in stark contrast to Paul and even more so Steph. Not because of the difference in eras, but the fact that they're clear better jumpshooters and while they may not be as good around the rim, are ultra efficient in the paint themselves
Really not a big deal when zone d has given teams a great method for defending ball dominant stars. Today the game is far less about m2m defense and more about an entire unit on a string working in concert to stop an offensive threat. Now defenses will even straight up abandon non shooters to help on stars whereas back then you were often penalized for helping such a way. Imagine how many players back then would be considered offensive liabilities now? Everything balances out and you can still be physical to a certain degree with players today (look at how TA got up in Durant last PS), just not dirty and superstars will always get their calls so that won't change
Curry can create his shot against anybody. He's got one of the best handles in the game and a lighting quick release. You give him three inches and that's a clean look. It's the fact that he can beat you equally whether the ball is in or out of his hands that makes him special. You pretty much have to double him at all times or else you're cooked
Thing that gets me is when people use trigger word intangibles like "Will to win" and "Desire" to argue for IT. We don't think Chris Paul has all of that? Didn't he just kick the Spurs ass on one leg while guarded by the DPOY?
People slam Chris Paul for choking but nobody seems to remember Bird stealing IT's inbound pass and hitting the GW in G5 of the '87 ECF. CP's career has pretty much been written as a disappointment by a lot of people and it's a shame because he belongs in the discussion for best PG sans Magic & Oscar. I'm fine with giving IT finishing at the rim, but Chris has been outstanding near the paint in his own right utilizing one of the best floaters of this era. Better from the perimeter, better floor general, better defender. Stepped his game up in the playoffs too but didn't have a squad like IT did in the Bad Boy Pistons to take it all the way
And? I'm sure Zeke could do that but he COULDN'T DO IT NEARLY AS EFFICIENTLY AS CURRY.
Curry scores more points on MUCH HIGHER efficiency. They can both scored 23-25 PPG but Curry does it as a TS of 60% which is absolutely insane and Zeke does it on 50% which is below average.
Curry is on another planet, as a scorer. It's like comparing Durant to Nick Young.
Sonny Corinthos
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nikkas out here bout to have me start hating on Chef Curry now
The disrespect being shown to legends of different eras not named MJ is so sad brehs
The disrespect being shown to legends of different eras not named MJ is so sad brehs
see alot of these young bucks trying to disrespect greats like isiah and stockton
dude retired at 32 and his worst season was 15 points 7 assists per game, dude was fearless, a winner
dude retired at 32 and his worst season was 15 points 7 assists per game, dude was fearless, a winner