What does LeBron James have to do to be considered the GOAT?

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

He has to sodimize a girl like kobe did in Colorado and get away with it and dodge HIV like magic Johnson then people will call him the goat.

Doesn't he need to snitch on a teammate and get a hall of fame coach fired too?

 

[Youseenmywork]

Doesn't he need to snitch on a teammate and get a hall of fame coach fired too?

I didn't think about that...

 

[Lefty Gunz]

There is nothing he can do. He can still finish top 5

 

[catskill247]

He is known as being passive aggressive and maybe for the entire CAREER he would be passive aggressive. You know what MADE the difference of why the CAVS are now CHAMPS and not again CHUMPS. It boiled down to the game virtually tied at the last minute and KYRIE, like he been doing the entire series, like he did that brought them OUT that halftime deficit in the last game, shot the game winning field goal because in his OWN words he was trying to get that MAMBA MENTALITY. This is precisely what's missing in LeBron's game... Had it not been for Kyrie, it would of more than likely been ANOTHER loss because LeBron brickin' and outside of that block that everyone been overhyped over... he wasn't showing up and was really passive. It was only until Kyrie made the shot he FINALLY decided to go hard to the paint which brought that foul... but where was this for MOST of the quarter? LeBron will NEVER be that GOAT because he doesn't have that mentality that separates him from the rest. He just got the TALENT...but lacks the mentality. This is why he loses so much at CRUNCH TIME more than he wins... he needs that closer to help him out. To save the game for him. He had that with WADE and he got that now with Kyrie. People like Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Bird... they WERE the closers. They were the ones by ANY MEANS will do whatever it TOOK to carry their team to victory.

Lebron is a STATISTICAL MONSTER... and may go down as the greatest STATISTICAL PLAYER that ever done. But to be the GOAT, it goes beyond what the stats say... that only tells part of the start and sometimes a misleading one. True GOATS do not care what the stats say, their ONLY concern is what they need to do to win them the ball game, and will do many things, that the stat sheet will not tell you to make it happen. And people who call Jordan the greatest that done it, it isn't because what the statistics tell you... you have to LIVE to witness the mentality this dude HAD throughout his ENTIRE career and how he put pressure to his own teammates to get on his level. This is why the Bulls never lost a finals, or even allowed it to reach a game 7.

LeBron may have flashes here and there, but I recall the time they were eliminated in the Eastern Conference Finals against the Celtics and how passive he played in that...but at least he got a triple double. But nobody cared about his statistics because he couldn't bring in the win. In EVERY FINALS, he brings in the stats... but when it is a LOSS, it is always due to his lack of taking charge when it matters, or when it is a WIN, it always be that OTHER teammate saving his ass. So, I am sorry... everyone ELSE may get hype up for this and the CAVS DESERVE THIS WIN... but I will forever remember who TRULY was the reason why they won it and won't ever get his true due... and that's Kyrie saving Lebron's ass.

My man
I will always remember kyrie's shot
I will always remember artest saving kobe's ass
And Paxson and Kerr saving Jordan's ass
Man shut the fuk up, KANG shyt

 

[Heelmatic]

Hes already top 3 for me all time with Jordan and Kareem.

But the thing that will always hold him back, in my eyes, is his constant flopping. Cant respect that shyt.

I swear people would like him a lot more if he didn't act like a little bytch all the time.

 

[gluvnast]

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[gluvnast]

My man
I will always remember kyrie's shot
I will always remember artest saving kobe's ass
And Paxson and Kerr saving Jordan's ass
Man shut the fuk up, KANG shyt

Kobe did get saved by Artest in game 7 of the finals against the Celtics. Artest even was hyped that Kobe passed him the ball. The REASON is people expected Kobe to get it and Kobe trusted Artest.

With Paxson, a ROLE PLAYER, he made the Horace Grant assisted three which is his assigned duty. Lets not ignored the fact that JORDAN literally kept that team in the game by being the ONLY player in the entire 4th qtr to score which put them in the winning position to begin with. Or with Kerr, another ROLE PLAYER, Jordan toss the ASSIST to him because people were expected him to hit it. Lets not ignore those constant examples of Jordan simply took over. Lets not forget the flu game, or the last game in a Bulls uniform where that entire LAST MINUTE and not just the exclamation point game winning shot was all Jordan.

Don't compare that with LeBron playing passive and it be KYRIE the entire series that pushed the team to its championship glory. LeBron had the stats, Kyrie had the heart. I PROMISE YOU without Kyrie, the Cavs would of lost this series with LeBron being a statistical leader. And y'all same prisoner of the moment ass nikkaz would talk about Curry's overrated ass instead.

 

[Ukbrotha]

I'm a huge LeBron fan. He's an incredible and unique player. At the moment, I cant make a case for him to be better than

Kobe, Magic, Kareem.

MJ isnt up for discussion.

I'm in my late 30s so I followed them since before I was even 10.

 

[dave]

 

[catskill247]

OK, that's fair.
I can say Bron is not better than MJ, he does have some years left to make people start biting there nails though.
At this point he has passed by Kobe and that is not an outlandish comment to make

Kobe did get saved by Artest in game 7 of the finals against the Celtics. Artest even was hyped that Kobe passed him the ball. The REASON is people expected Kobe to get it and Kobe trusted Artest.

With Paxson, a ROLE PLAYER, he made the Horace Grant assisted three which is his assigned duty. Lets not ignored the fact that JORDAN literally kept that team in the game by being the ONLY player in the entire 4th qtr to score which put them in the winning position to begin with. Or with Kerr, another ROLE PLAYER, Jordan toss the ASSIST to him because people were expected him to hit it. Lets not ignore those constant examples of Jordan simply took over. Lets not forget the flu game, or the last game in a Bulls uniform where that entire LAST MINUTE and not just the exclamation point game winning shot was all Jordan.

Don't compare that with LeBron playing passive and it be KYRIE the entire series that pushed the team to its championship glory. LeBron had the stats, Kyrie had the heart. I PROMISE YOU without Kyrie, the Cavs would of lost this series with LeBron being a statistical leader. And y'all same prisoner of the moment ass nikkaz would talk about Curry's overrated ass instead.

 

[ALonelyDad]

travel back in time and fix 2011. That to me will never put him over Jordan, it was embarrassing. Also if you want to ignore that, he has to at least get 6 rings and 6 finals mvp for me to even consider him near Jordan. Jordan is bigger than basketball, his impact is something that can't be matched, that is why he is the goat.

 

[Floyd Pinkerton]

How is it embarrassing when it's an actual fact Bulls record when MJ didn't play was barely over .500.

Funny how ppl wanna bring up 94 but forget the next year they were gonna miss the playoffs until MJ came back and carried them to the playoffs.

I'm obviously referring to the part of your post when you said both Kyrie and LeBron-era Wade were better than Pippen

 

[Draje]

Kobe did get saved by Artest in game 7 of the finals against the Celtics. Artest even was hyped that Kobe passed him the ball. The REASON is people expected Kobe to get it and Kobe trusted Artest.

With Paxson, a ROLE PLAYER, he made the Horace Grant assisted three which is his assigned duty. Lets not ignored the fact that JORDAN literally kept that team in the game by being the ONLY player in the entire 4th qtr to score which put them in the winning position to begin with. Or with Kerr, another ROLE PLAYER, Jordan toss the ASSIST to him because people were expected him to hit it. Lets not ignore those constant examples of Jordan simply took over. Lets not forget the flu game, or the last game in a Bulls uniform where that entire LAST MINUTE and not just the exclamation point game winning shot was all Jordan.

Don't compare that with LeBron playing passive and it be KYRIE the entire series that pushed the team to its championship glory. LeBron had the stats, Kyrie had the heart. I PROMISE YOU without Kyrie, the Cavs would of lost this series with LeBron being a statistical leader. And y'all same prisoner of the moment ass nikkaz would talk about Curry's overrated ass instead.

So how good with the Cavs have done without Lebron?

 

[Juggalo Fred]

I'm a huge LeBron fan. He's an incredible and unique player. At the moment, I cant make a case for him to be better than

Kobe, Magic, Kareem.

MJ isnt up for discussion.

I'm in my late 30s so I followed them since before I was even 10.

Russell is better than everyone you mentioned

 

[showtime]

I'm obviously referring to the part of your post when you said both Kyrie and LeBron-era Wade were better than Pippen

They are

Wade went to the finals by himself and won finals mvp having one of the best finals ever by one player

Kyrie is only 24 years old. When was Pippen dropping 40 in the finals? Kyrie stepped his D up and was shutting down the unanimous MVP. Kyrie hit the game winner which won the cavs the series.

In the 2nd 3peat pippen was scoring 6-8 points on some nights