What does the Rap game need to get back on track?

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Until there is more diversity in terms of what styles of hip-hop are allowed to exist at the top the game hip-hop will continue to become more of a stagnant cesspool of Wayne, Aubrey, Yeezy, and Ross clones. When you let basically one style of hip-hop run the whole yard then once that gets under the control of the industry, cacs, jews or who or whatever you want to say has it then we just get what they give us.


Who is A wayne clone? Who is a Drake Clone? Who is a Ross clone?


Cause its dope, when I listen to these 90s albums, it was dope that, Dre, Snoop, Pac albums have that west coast sound and feel. Where's, LL, Nas, Mobb Deep, Biggie, Wu, Jay had that NYC sound.

Yesterday I was watching some old footage of Far Rockaway in the mid 90s and it so reminded me of Mobb Deep & Nas music during that time period.


90s was the golden era of Hip Hop, the mid to late 2000s could have been just as great if NYC & the west coast had some heavy hitters to go along the south big stars (Ross, T.I, Jeezy & Wayne).

This is the type of shyt I can't stand.

Why does today music have to be compared to the 90s?

That was a different time and the music was made and consumed entirely different.

I don't know why people can't accept that instead of longing for the 90s way of life to return
 

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Alot of people on here complain about the rap game ALL DAY.

Do ya have any solutions tho? :c00nj:

first things first.

THE MUSIC.
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Producers: Stop copying off of one another. its time be creative, even if that means your music sucks when you are creative and can only make your own kind of music. you win some you lose some but it produces the best creative work in the end, and even you can luck up on a few gems.

- stop trying to make hits. just make good music and let the hit choose itself.



- similar to the first thing i said. Old head producers, stop trying to bring back soulful hiphop and your version of boom bap. sure i wouldnt mind 1 or 2 joints like that on an album every now and then. but i do not need an entire album sounding like it was produced in the 90's. and i'm an Old head.

youngins, its time to really start experimenting with your sounds to find that NEW sound, to push us forward. just remember make sure its still HIPHOP. hiphop is in the drums(drum loop). if you're using a disco drum loop and you dont change a thing about it. its now disco that someone is rapping over, not hiphop. remember that.


RAPPERS: lets star off with having a Topic that has to do with YOu personally or someone you know personally, or something you've heard people speak on. use that topic(s) to fuel your song. and STAY on topic when you're rapping. dont go off topic just to say the buzz words(shawty..., in the club, bottle of ....., my car...., my clothes....)

if you just have to make yet another party/club track. make it real, give me the entire scene. dont just say what the last rapper said. break it down from the moment you leave the house, hop in the whip, head down what street/fwy, did you scoop up some of your boys? or you one of those that role with a bunch of chicks cause you got it like that? then lets keep it 150, everybody cant be VIP status. someone has to stand in the Guy line and wait til the chicks go in then they let you in. somebody was on the guest list but the bouncer cant see your name. lets keep it 150. i need those club stories. then break down what you see in the club once you get in there. not just a hot shawty, and bottles at the bar. be more descriptive. paint a picture.
then hit us with a simplistic but hot hook. it better not be the same wack themesong hook you just heard 2 weeks prior.

-more story telling in general. you can tell stories with a simple but hot hook and have a great beat where people that listen casually wont even know you're telling a story. they will just love the hook, like that you're riding the beat, and like the beat itself. the rest of us will appreciate you taking the time to tell us something...anything.

-lets keep 180, its time to be more conscious, enough with the strip club raps. we've beat that dead horse to death and back to life again. its time to get back on that conscious tip. but do it in an organic way. if you a street dude, give me that street conscious (ice cube, jigga) , if you're a college student, or a guy that reads like crazy (give me that talib vibe, etc).

-last but not least, what happen to the funny rappers. not just the weed smoking rappers. but the funny rappers? the redman's, special K's (i got a man) of the genre. just make us laugh with real life stories.
 

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Who is A wayne clone? Who is a Drake Clone? Who is a Ross clone?




This is the type of shyt I can't stand.

Why does today music have to be compared to the 90s?

That was a different time and the music was made and consumed entirely different.

I don't know why people can't accept that instead of longing for the 90s way of life to return
we're not longing for the 90's sound to return. we're longing for 90's quality. the fact you're fighting ultra quality music tells us a little something about you.

we all want that top notch quality. we all grew up on regional music.

when i listened to a southern rapper back in the day. from the music to his style to the lyrics i felt like was ridin thru in the south some where with a tooth pick in my mouth.

when i hear the WU- Tang. i felt like i was warming my hands over a trash can fire next to a brick wall with graffiti all on it. i heard the train in the background. i felt like i need to throw a bubble goose on. i could feel the cold of the winter.

when i played that bay music, i felt like i was in oakland.

Thats something we miss and may never get back because hiphop and the internet are one now. this meshes the lines of regions. everyone follows overall trends vs just regional ones where music and TV were the only way other people would know what was hot on your block far far away. now its learned in a click of the mouse.

but it would be nice to somewhat capture those areas again.
 

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we're not longing for the 90's sound to return. we're longing for 90's quality. the fact you're fighting ultra quality music tells us a little something about you.

we all want that top notch quality. we all grew up on regional music.

when i listened to a southern rapper back in the day. from the music to his style to the lyrics i felt like was ridin thru in the south some where with a tooth pick in my mouth.

when i hear the WU- Tang. i felt like i was warming my hands over a trash can fire next to a brick wall with graffiti all on it. i heard the train in the background. i felt like i need to throw a bubble goose on. i could feel the cold of the winter.

when i played that bay music, i felt like i was in oakland.

Thats something we miss and may never get back because hiphop and the internet are one now. this meshes the lines of regions. everyone follows overall trends vs just regional ones where music and TV were the only way other people would know what was hot on your block far far away. now its learned in a click of the mouse.

but it would be nice to somewhat capture those areas again.

Quality is subjective. Everyone doesn't listen to rap the same or for the same reasons.

You can not get upset if someone thinks lil wayne makes better quality music then Wu tang.
 

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first things first.

THE MUSIC.
---

Producers: Stop copying off of one another. its time be creative, even if that means your music sucks when you are creative and can only make your own kind of music. you win some you lose some but it produces the best creative work in the end, and even you can luck up on a few gems.

- stop trying to make hits. just make good music and let the hit choose itself.



- similar to the first thing i said. Old head producers, stop trying to bring back soulful hiphop and your version of boom bap. sure i wouldnt mind 1 or 2 joints like that on an album every now and then. but i do not need an entire album sounding like it was produced in the 90's. and i'm an Old head.

youngins, its time to really start experimenting with your sounds to find that NEW sound, to push us forward. just remember make sure its still HIPHOP. hiphop is in the drums(drum loop). if you're using a disco drum loop and you dont change a thing about it. its now disco that someone is rapping over, not hiphop. remember that.


RAPPERS: lets star off with having a Topic that has to do with YOu personally or someone you know personally, or something you've heard people speak on. use that topic(s) to fuel your song. and STAY on topic when you're rapping. dont go off topic just to say the buzz words(shawty..., in the club, bottle of ....., my car...., my clothes....)

if you just have to make yet another party/club track. make it real, give me the entire scene. dont just say what the last rapper said. break it down from the moment you leave the house, hop in the whip, head down what street/fwy, did you scoop up some of your boys? or you one of those that role with a bunch of chicks cause you got it like that? then lets keep it 150, everybody cant be VIP status. someone has to stand in the Guy line and wait til the chicks go in then they let you in. somebody was on the guest list but the bouncer cant see your name. lets keep it 150. i need those club stories. then break down what you see in the club once you get in there. not just a hot shawty, and bottles at the bar. be more descriptive. paint a picture.
then hit us with a simplistic but hot hook. it better not be the same wack themesong hook you just heard 2 weeks prior.

-more story telling in general. you can tell stories with a simple but hot hook and have a great beat where people that listen casually wont even know you're telling a story. they will just love the hook, like that you're riding the beat, and like the beat itself. the rest of us will appreciate you taking the time to tell us something...anything.

-lets keep 180, its time to be more conscious, enough with the strip club raps. we've beat that dead horse to death and back to life again. its time to get back on that conscious tip. but do it in an organic way. if you a street dude, give me that street conscious (ice cube, jigga) , if you're a college student, or a guy that reads like crazy (give me that talib vibe, etc).

-last but not least, what happen to the funny rappers. not just the weed smoking rappers. but the funny rappers? the redman's, special K's (i got a man) of the genre. just make us laugh with real life stories.

So all these rappers should just make music you like?

They should ignore the people who buy their singles, albums and go to their shows.

They should ignore the music that gets the club swaying.

They should just make music that you like so you can deem it "classic" or unique:gladbron:
 
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nikkas need to at least give up & coming artists the time of day. i posted my songs on the coli twice with no response :ld:

never know what piff you could end up hearing brehs :shaq:
 

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nikkas need to at least give up & coming artists the time of day. i posted my songs on the coli twice with no respone :ld:

never know what piff you could end up hearing brehs :shaq:


We dont listen to nothing but industry plants round here plehboi :mjpls:
 

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Quality is subjective. Everyone doesn't listen to rap the same or for the same reasons.

You can not get upset if someone thinks lil wayne makes better quality music then Wu tang.

youz outta ya mind.

little weezy had a little run. very little . WU Tang crushed the buildings.
i mean the GZA is talking to professors about making music to science. i just heard the other day they are hitting up ghostface to rap stories to form an actual play they will show.

zero comparison.

lil weezy has to much cotton candy rap. to much "i beat that.... up" nonsense.
 

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we're not longing for the 90's sound to return. we're longing for 90's quality.

we all want that top notch quality. we all grew up on regional music.

when i listened to a southern rapper back in the day. from the music to his style to the lyrics i felt like was ridin thru in the south some where with a tooth pick in my mouth.

when i hear the WU- Tang. i felt like i was warming my hands over a trash can fire next to a brick wall with graffiti all on it. i heard the train in the background. i felt like i need to throw a bubble goose on. i could feel the cold of the winter.

when i played that bay music, i felt like i was in oakland.

Thats something we miss and may never get back because hiphop and the internet are one now. this meshes the lines of regions. everyone follows overall trends vs just regional ones where music and TV were the only way other people would know what was hot on your block far far away. now its learned in a click of the mouse.

but it would be nice to somewhat capture those areas again.

This. Excellent post breh, dapped & repped.
 
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