What exactly is Bernie's path to winning the nomination?

[Robbie3000]

no, it WAS a primary. it won't be one after tuesday

gotta say, your bernie broing is admirable but it's time to pack it in

It ain’t over till it’s over homes. We gone fight like Japanese soldiers who didn’t get the memo.




It’s till the wheels fall off.

Bernie Bro is the army, better yet the Navy.

 

[the cac mamba]

It ain’t over till it’s over homes. We gone fight like Japanese soldiers who didn’t get the memo.




It’s till the wheels fall off.

Bernie Bro is the army, better yet the Navy.

and im drunk as fukk right now.

BERNIE IS NOT WINNING THE ELECTIONn

 

[AAKing23]

There is none, it's over

 

[Strapped]

Hopefully Cheeto helps out with some dirt on sleepy joe

 

[Oldschooler]

Can i ask one question, for you as an individual voter, what does it even mean to "alienate" it shouldn't matter. Bernie is a fukkin democrat a left leaning one, he's more democrat than some current democrats. But the main thing is that you as an individual voter shouldn't vote based on party but based on an individuals policy. If a republican comes out with M4A which is the biggest issue imo, I'm voting for them tomorrow.

I just don't understand how a black person in the south facing absolute racism and discrimination everyday, battered and bruised by a racist system who doesn't provide them an ounce of help, vote for someone because they go to church. This is mind boggling to me.

 

[Unemployed GM]

Can i ask one question, for you as an individual voter, what does it even mean to "alienate" it shouldn't matter. Bernie is a fukkin democrat a left leaning one, he's more democrat than some current democrats. But the main thing is that you as an individual voter shouldn't vote based on party but based on an individuals policy. If a republican comes out with M4A which is the biggest issue imo, I'm voting for them tomorrow.

I just don't understand how a black person in the south facing absolute racism and discrimination everyday, battered and bruised by a racist system who doesn't provide them an ounce of help, vote for someone because they go to church. This is mind boggling to me.

I agree, but Black People do a lot dumber stuff because of church. We all got them in our family. This shyt ain't new.

M4A will destroy the insurance industry. The insurance industry s very profitable, but they are able to keep a low profile in this country. They will do anything to stop M4A.

On super tuesday I watched MSNBC for a few hours, I haven't watched MSNBC in a few years, butI was shocked how pro Biden they were. They where shytting on Bernie the whole broadcast.

I support Berine policies but his campaign needs to understand what they are up against.

 

[mastermind]

People like Bernie, he has high favorability ratings amongst Dems and left-leaning independents. He actually had solid 2nd choice support amongst Biden and Warren supporters over the last year.

The issue is the campaign. They never seriously went after reliable Dem primary voters. They didn't highlight Bernie being a team player in the Democratic caucus in the Senate and the House. They didn't highlight his bipartisan work.

Their comms strategy was not up to snuff.

I think its just general incompetence. Best fundraising operation in the entire field and they could have just hired ruthless political operatives to win.

Maybe they weren't serious about winning. Progressives have trouble wanting and wielding power just as moderate Dems have.

Bernie just isn’t a killer. It’s the weirdest thing. You going against people within the establishment, yet don’t attack their favored candidates on anything until you take a big L.

He has no killer instinct.

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

Don't care, stay in the race to push the party leftward.

 

[Oldschooler]

Bernie just isn’t a killer. It’s the weirdest thing. You going against people within the establishment, yet don’t attack their favored candidates on anything until you take a big L.

He has no killer instinct.

It's a double edge sword if you start attacking too early, they'll call you out for alienating voters and dividing the party. If you don't attack them then it's an automatic L because now you are against a mountain which is what we actually see happening right now. Bernie needs to go on the attack starting next town hall/debate. There's a whole machine against him.

 

[mastermind]

It's a double edge sword if you start attacking too early, they'll call you out for alienating voters and dividing the party. If you don't attack them then it's an automatic L because now you are against a mountain which is what we actually see happening right now. Bernie needs to go on the attack starting next town hall/debate. There's a whole machine against him.

And I think this is what @FAH1223 point is regarding not having experienced operatives who can help frame his message.

Bernie needed to point out that he was different from Warren and that his vision for America is for the people, while the others are for the wealthy. He isn’t assertive enough.

 

[mitter]

And I think this is what @FAH1223 point is regarding not having experienced operatives who can help frame his message.

Bernie needed to point out that he was different from Warren and that his vision for America is for the people, while the others are for the wealthy. He isn’t assertive enough.

I don't think pointing this out would have necessarily helped him win over Warren voters.

People vote based on all sorts of stupid things besides policy positions.

I've met so many Warren voters who like her because of her technocratic, wonky image, or because she's a woman, etc. I've encountered a lot of Warren supporters who view her as a moderate

 

[mitter]

Notice how left candidates are always responsible for the behavior of random online supporters.

And note how bad behavior of supporters of leftish politicians is constantly highlighted and blown out of proportion.

This happened to Jeremy Corbyn and Bernie Sanders.


In Corbyn's case, the additional "antisemitism" dimension was thrown in. They couldn't do that with Bernie, so in his case it's "sexism" and "racism."

 

[mastermind]

I don't think pointing this out would have necessarily helped him win over Warren voters.

People vote based on all sorts of stupid things besides policy positions.

I've met so many Warren voters who like her because of her technocratic, wonky image, or because she's a woman, etc. I've encountered a lot of Warren supporters who view her as a moderate

It’s not about winning over #ImWithHer voters. I’m talking about the voters who thought she was Bernie but could work within the Democratic Party better.

Also, he needed to have old people scared that Biden was going to cut social security and medicare.

 

[mitter]

It’s not about winning over #ImWithHer voters. I’m talking about the voters who thought she was Bernie but could work within the Democratic Party better.

Also, he needed to have old people scared that Biden was going to cut social security and medicare.

Yeah, I see what you mean. But at the end of the day, Warren ended up with relatively little overall support anyway. So I don't know how much a difference winning over the fraction who saw her as a progressive would have made.

I totally agree with your second point. He needed to target older voters rather than rely on young and new voters who never actually show up.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I just don't understand how a black person in the south facing absolute racism and discrimination everyday, battered and bruised by a racist system who doesn't provide them an ounce of help, vote for someone because they go to church. This is mind boggling to me.

Black Americans, especially in the south, have a history of seeing politicians pump fake on big promises, from how they were abandoned in the middle of reconstruction, to zero back up of their land and voting rights, to how long it took to get segregation ended and civil rights protections, is it unfathomable that some of them, at the least, simply don’t have faith in politicians promising big change? Maybe familiarity and common culture (the church piece) builds trust more than promises?