What has been the main reason people think R&b music is pretty much dead ?

[Homey the clown]

I was reading some of the comments in that recent Chris Brown thread, and I saw quite a few people saying R&b is pretty much a dead genre.So I was wondering what killed it? Less then five years ago R&b was pretty popular but now it seems to me like if you want to sell records you have to be Dirty and raunchy.I have always liked Hip hop music a little more then R&b but I am still a big fan of R&b music.There needs to be balance.If R&b is dead or dying what are people going to listen to in the future to get in the mood? It pretty much irritates me that people like Adele, Justin Timberlake and other white artists are doing R&b type music and are actually selling records, but for some reason the music industry can't find a black singer to do the same type of music. Don't get me wrong I don't have a problem with either of those singers in fact I used to have Justin Timberlake's first two CD's but in my opinion there has to be an agenda.

 

[George's Dilemma]

When R&B became excessively influenced by Hip Hop and Pop. Reminds me of an old M.O.P. line,

What up with these r&b cats nowadays
Rockin' doo-rags with braids (they fukked up now)
Singers want to be gangsters, gangsters want to be rappers
But fizz is gonna be famester, famester's gonna be slapper

 

[Knicksman20]

@stomachlines @PhonZhi

From what I've seen 99.9% of white people can't do true R&B. They don't have the soul or voice. It's one thing they can't copy or duplicate so they had to water it down so they can imitate it. That's why on these music reality shows most Black people that can really sing don't do well

 

[smokeurobinson]

Its still around...just not in the mainstream like it once was:


Eric Roberson
daniel ceaser
PJ
Bj the Chicago kid
Xavier Omar
Sango
JMSN
Ari Lennox
Her
Lion babe
Gourdan banks
Ro James
Yuna
Nao
Sylo norza
Sabrina Claudio
Chris mclenney
Sevyn
Ella mai
Melanie Fiona,
syd the kid
joyce wrice

Ledisi, goapele, Jill Scott, maxwell, Robert glasper,sza, solange, Miguel, paak,

 

[George's Dilemma]

Something else lacking in R&B is the lack of Blues influence. When you listen to old soul music and R&B, you can hear that old deep south Blues element in the sound of the music and vocals. Real instruments certainly contributed to that sound, but these modern producers don't really rely on that anymore. There is no in-house band like a Stax Records or Motown would use for their vocalists.

 

[I love Latina women]

@stomachlines @PhonZhi

From what I've seen 99.9% of white people can't do true R&B. They don't have the soul or voice. It's one thing they can't copy or duplicate so they had to water it down so they can imitate it. That's why on these music reality shows most Black people that can really sing don't do well

I agree.

 

[Fly]

RnB 5 years ago was worse off than it is now. If anything, the genre is making more of a comeback now. Coli dudes go off of what they hear on the radio when it comes to dictating what is and isnt popular, but artists like Daniel Caesar, Brent Faiyaz, DVSN, H.E.R, Khalid, etc. are doing just fine right now despite not receiving heavy top 40 radio play and making more traditional sounding RnB

 

[AB Ziggy]

When hip hop started influencing r&b on a large scale around the mid 90s. And then r&b itself started becoming infiltrated by white people over black artists.

 

[AlainLocke]

Adele is from the UK and does Blue Eyed Soul..and is in a totally different lane than a Black artist...and Justin Timberlake is the last Michael Jackson King of Pop imitator from the 2000s and is a legacy artist at this point...

I don't fukk with RnB past 80s...after the 80s...it just became "sex music" or "break-up music"...it had no real point or edge...there was no message or personality.

You have your DeAngelo, Maxwell, and Badu...the auteurs of the genre in the 90s...who were pretty mainstream.

RnB music is dead because it is stale and the fact that it is considered "get into the mood" music makes it stale. Also it's stale because there has been no sonic inventiveness...since the 90s in RnB.

Also nobody wanna be considered an RnB artist when there is some new sound because RnB is boring. It's considered old folks music. It's shyt you listen to at a cookout. It's shyt you listen to while cleaning the house. It's shyt that you hear at an Essence festival. It's shyt you hear at a Steve Harvey cruise.

When you got Black artists who dodge the RnB label...I am talking about artists like FKA Twigs...you know it's dead. When you got Pop nikkas like the Weeknd dissing RnB nikkas calling them lames...you know it's dead.

When RnB is divided into Urban Contemporary and Traditional RnB...you know it's dead.

When the biggest Black RnB artist is a Canadian nikka...that raps...you know it's dead.

Hip Hop...with the authenticity and the personality...took over RnB because it because Hip Hop is versatile...and authenticity is the core of Hip Hop.

RnB really is too soap opera like...if you think about it...R.Kelly's Trapped in the Closet might as well be a parody of the state of RnB music.

We will see if these new nikkas like Brent Fiyaz...will stay RnB nikkas or they will be like...

"I don't make RnB music..."

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

Its still around...just not in the mainstream like it once was:


Eric Roberson
daniel ceaser
PJ
Bj the Chicago kid
Xavier Omar
Sango
JMSN
Ari Lennox
Her
Lion babe
Gourdan banks
Ro James
Yuna
Nao
Sylo norza
Sabrina Claudio
Chris mclenney
Sevyn
Ella mai
Melanie Fiona,
syd the kid
joyce wrice

Ledisi, goapele, Jill Scott, maxwell, Robert glasper,sza, solange, Miguel, paak,

what this breh said

 

[010101]

can't sing
can't write

*

 

[scarlxrd]

Because rnb and hiphop merged a few years ago. They're damn near interchangeable now. Singing nikkas rap now and vice versa.

 

[Gold]

Pure R&b gets very little play on the radio these days.

I know it depends on where you live tho.
In Tulsa I heard R&b all the time.

In Dallas I rarely do

 

[TheDarkCloud]

Because you have White copycats doing what we do, so there's no need for it.

As long as the industry is pushing Adele and Sam Smith and the rest of these mediocre copycats as legitimate, authentic r&b will be on the back burner.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Blame the radio. I shouldn't have to go out my way to show my daughter what true R&B is but it seems like that's where we are