What if...Reparations for AA's was Voluntary?

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Are you saying taking a % or fraction of cities/counties/states total collected property taxes each year?
if so, thats fine. but thats not this. Thats a case Blacks vs the State of /County of/City of [insert name]. we when that case. then by all means. pay up.
I'm saying African Americans should be exempt from property tax.

... a direct handout of any kind isnt going to happen. That ship sailed long ago.
 

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I'm saying African Americans should be exempt from property tax.

... a direct handout of any kind isnt going to happen. That ship sailed long ago.
we keep saying a direct handout wont work. i said make it voluntary. it seems everyone is afraid to ask for that money. everytime the convo comes up. someone is either bending the convo into "so so who's going to get it.. so so...what are black people going to do with the money..." and we get off the subject.

Do you understand why i said make it voluntary? Since we know politicians for the most part (congress as well as the pres has to come together on something like this) are not going to mess with it. but that doesnt mean THE PEOPLE can't pay into it on their own if it was a voluntary choice. Give them that option. it wont hurt them or us to have an OPTION on the books.

Now i agree, we should be exempt from property taxes and if you ask me the way we get treated around these parts. where ever a black person stands should be sovereign. i use to think that moorish law was nonsense. well it is to some degree, but the idea of sovereignty isnt. This means these cops can't mess with us. We would have our own police force and our own courts. we could have our own jails if we so well pleased. but what i dont want is to be pushed off to the side into some wack piece of land that no one wants. I aint giving up the coasts so easily. i'm not giving up the prime spots where our agriculture resides, etc.

but here's the one issue with us not paying prop tax. what happens in all or mostly black areas? prop taxes are used to build up and fix the city you live in. are areas are already treated like 3 world countries. what happens when we pay 0 tax dollars? how would they know how much $$$ to push towards those areas?
 

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Do you know the total amt owed to natives? NOPE> and neither do I. guess what we do still? Pay our taxes to the natives thats what.

I told yall before. dont expose yourself by always derailing the original collection plate of Reparations.

BP... what did the original post state? GETTING THE MONEY. lets not discuss anything outside of the Collection of the funds. NOTHING else. now i can talk to you about tax rates, etc.

My idea would be to hit people with a pre-taxed choice. just like 401k at your job. its pre-tax. which means if you say take 1%. its 1% of your Gross, not 1% of your net. So its a bit easier on every individual. and this makes for the feds to somewhat kick in by allowing a pre-tax deduction like this.
? THe problem is what's done with the money does make a difference to me. If the government wants to force a reparations tax then i'd be behind that, as there's really not much else I could do. I'd still like to know how it's being spent.

You made this "tax" optional which means in order for me to make a decision as to how I want to spend my money well then yeah I want to know if it makes sense for me.

If this collection plate was goign to be used for education I'd be more apt to say yes vs being earmarked for recruitment of more black soldiers.

HOW it is spent can be almost as important as collecting it.
 

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? THe problem is what's done with the money does make a difference to me. If the government wants to force a reparations tax then i'd be behind that, as there's really not much else I could do. I'd still like to know how it's being spent.

You made this "tax" optional which means in order for me to make a decision as to how I want to spend my money well then yeah I want to know if it makes sense for me.

If this collection plate was goign to be used for education I'd be more apt to say yes vs being earmarked for recruitment of more black soldiers.

HOW it is spent can be almost as important as collecting it.
It wont be for education. its a straight monetary Pay out. Thats it. at least for now. I'm keeping it simple. We can talk education, jobs, blah blah blah... land, property taxes, etc. etc at another date. keep it simple. pay in cash for cash payours.

Dont go asking but but who's going to get it specifically. thats not your business if you're not an AA. let the AA's make that decision. "GET OUT OF MY POCKET." just pay if you so well choose or Dont. real simple.

if i know i owe someone $50. do you think before i pay him the $50 back i'm going to ask a 1000 questions about "so.. what you gone do with da money???"

stop it. thats not your concern. pay what is owed. real simple. this isnt rocket science.


***other minorities saying "but but i didnt own slaves why i gotta pay?" the same reason i pay for israel right now. i didnt put nobody in a furnace. i'm not threating israel or jews. so why do i have to pay? yet i pay. i aint never took a piece of native land. but why do i have to pay? but i pay. i didnt put no japanese in any camps. but i had to pay and i paid and didnt cry about it either.

So for my latin bruhs that aint of african decent. understand something. if you feel kind of funny about paying. just remember if it wasnt for black peope sticking their necks out during those civil rights movements and what not. You wouldnt be able to move around the country as freely as you do now, let alone have the ability to be as successful as some of you are. without that movement asians wouldnt be running These UC schools out in Cali. They wouldnt let yall in like that.

And for white women. if it wasnt for the black struggle, you wouldnt have what you have today(still deserve more to be equal to men).

Like i said in another thread. every single foreign person or person of another minority group should salute black people when you see them based on what we've historically have done for yall. when it comes to your freedoms in this country. same for the gays since you keep trying to ride our coattail.
 

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It wont be for education. its a straight monetary Pay out. Thats it. at least for now. I'm keeping it simple. We can talk education, jobs, blah blah blah... land, property taxes, etc. etc at another date. keep it simple. pay in cash for cash payours.

Dont go asking but but who's going to get it specifically. thats not your business if you're not an AA. let the AA's make that decision. "GET OUT OF MY POCKET." just pay if you so well choose or Dont. real simple.
I have AA in my blood what do I get?

if i know i owe someone $50. do you think before i pay him the $50 back i'm going to ask a 1000 questions about "so.. what you gone do with da money???"
So then anyone who immigrated here after slavery shouldn't be expected to pay?

stop it. thats not your concern. pay what is owed. real simple. this isnt rocket science.
It's not super simple either.


***other minorities saying "but but i didnt own slaves why i gotta pay?" the same reason i pay for israel right now. i didnt put nobody in a furnace. i'm not threating israel or jews. so why do i have to pay? yet i pay. i aint never took a piece of native land. but why do i have to pay? but i pay. i didnt put no japanese in any camps. but i had to pay and i paid and didnt cry about it either.
no argument from me on any of those. You shouldn't have to pay, neither should I. Why would I willingly want to pay MORE for a concept/position I already don't support? I'd prefer not having to pay for any of that shyt TBH.

So for my latin bruhs that aint of african decent. understand something. if you feel kind of funny about paying. just remember if it wasnt for black peope sticking their necks out during those civil rights movements and what not. You wouldnt be able to move around the country as freely as you do now, let alone have the ability to be as successful as some of you are. without that movement asians wouldnt be running These UC schools out in Cali. They wouldnt let yall in like that.

And for white women. if it wasnt for the black struggle, you wouldnt have what you have today(still deserve more to be equal to men).

Like i said in another thread. every single foreign person or person of another minority group should salute black people when you see them based on what we've historically have done for yall. when it comes to your freedoms in this country. same for the gays since you keep trying to ride our coattail.
lol ok. Parts I can agree with but you can kiss my ass on that salute thing.
 

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Justice and racial reconciliation through working-class revolution.

I see no possibility of reparations in this society as it is currently constituted. Had things gone differently in the Reconstruction-era, maybe.

Besides the lynchings, that was a top 5 era for black people in this country post American Revolution
 

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What if you live in Arizona already.... :jbhmm:
you still dont want desert land unless you're putting up solar panels. that was just me using an example of how black folks just asking for land like in a general since would end up with mostly crap land. So go in asking for prime land.
 
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you still dont want desert land unless you're putting up solar panels. that was just me using an example of how black folks just asking for land like in a general since would end up with mostly crap land. So go in asking for prime land.
I can't knock your viewpoint breh. Makes sense in your explanation.
 
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