What Impact Will NBA Africa Have on FBA's Relationship to the Continent

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:skip: What did infrastructure have to to with the magic that occurred at the Rucker? In the hood, the only "western infrastructure" was the hoop. Didn't no coach show them how to do all that.

Tell me, since i don't follow sports, which sports have been completely re invented by other diasporic africans.

Im pressing it bc, generally, to push a discipline outside of its usual bounds is an inherently rebellious action and, frankly, i don't see that spirit in them. If the white coach said, 'Thats not how we do it," I'm expecting very little push back, hence no innovation.

But tell me if I'm wrong, preferably with examples. :jbhmm:

UFC is one example, Soccer another, the most successful country being Brazil and generally even in Europe the last World Cup winners was France, a country and team full of 1st and 2nd generation Africans from Congo, Mali, Senegal and Martinique etc.

Of course you’ve also got sprinting, which the Jamaicans dominate, and even in heavyweight boxing the three best fighters are Irish Tyson Fury, ADOS Deontay Wilder and British Nigerian Anthony Joshua.

I wouldn’t say any of these sports has been completely reinvented by these groups like NBA or Boxing with ADOS but the influence has been profound, and it’s a growing one, Usain Bolt and the Jamaicans for example have taken sprinting to new heights, Black and Multiracial Brazilians have provided Soccer with the most flair and best players, UFC is facing a emergence of West African fighters who represent the top of a majority white sport and so on.
 

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Sure about that?

Gonna have to split KAJ in half. He's AA/Trini

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Thing is african and carribean black folks been in the NBA for over 4 decades. Normally they just grew up or were born in the states and matriculated to the NBA.

Thats why I give a side eye when the NBA pushes this international stuff. Making it seem international players are new. When their were international players even in the 80s. They just were raised here played college ball so they weren't lumped as foreigners. Such as detlef schrempf.

Hell to promote the game more international the league even claiming folks international players even when they are americans but played or where born or were in school overseas or had a relative who was not american

I mean if we going by this mark aquire and shaq are international players.
 

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Is this a troll post? You cant be serious lol.

I dont care how many Africans on the continent pick up the sport. Just like Boxing, the best Black players/fighters will always be American

All those players you named will never be a Jordan/Lebron/Kobe/Durant type player

Steph Curry is not biracial lmao wtf

Tatum not mixed either..:mjlol:. Or are we saying this cause tatum momma mixed or looks mixed so is tatum.

If thats the case Malcolm X, Muhammad Ali, grant hill were mixed too...:mjlol:
 

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UFC is one example, Soccer another, the most successful country being Brazil and generally even in Europe the last World Cup winners was France, a country and team full of 1st and 2nd generation Africans from Congo, Mali, Senegal and Martinique etc.

Of course you’ve also got sprinting, which the Jamaicans dominate, and even in heavyweight boxing the three best fighters are Irish Tyson Fury, ADOS Deontay Wilder and British Nigerian Anthony Joshua.

I wouldn’t say any of these sports has been completely reinvented by these groups like NBA or Boxing with ADOS but the influence has been profound, and it’s a growing one, Usain Bolt and the Jamaicans for example have taken sprinting to new heights, Black and Multiracial Brazilians have provided Soccer with the most flair and best players, UFC is facing a emergence of West African fighters who represent the top of a majority white sport and so on.

As you pointed out it does take infrastructure which is normally good coaching and facilities. You can have the talent in basketball, but if dudes ain't getting the coaching in some form they ain't gonna be able to matriculate to the pros. Thats the thing folks fail to realize that all the great players normally had some great coaching at a young age to help them develop.

That coach can be their father who is an ex pro, their high school coach, their college coach their early elementary school coach. Who really unlocked their game.

You also need a developed system to find the talent at an early age and train them. We see that in america how any kid that had identified talent...schools line up even in elementary school to have them come to their school. You got trainers who will see the kid and talk to the parents cause they can see the talent and want to train them...and on and on and on again.

I have known personally a couple of dudes who went pro and this is basically what happened to them.

But even with infrastructure if the money to put funds in the talents pocket ain't there the best and most talented players are still going to europe. I am 1k percent sure the money just ain't there at this time with NBA Africa.

Case in point years ago a college buddy of mine was like the second best player on the team. He didn't get drafted but was offered a contract with the NBA D-League (called the G league now) they offered him like 20k or some shyt.

Then he got an offer from a puerto rican team and a Philippine team both offering like 35k. But a second division league in greece offered him 250k tax free, a car and a home to live in for free.

So he took the greece gig because the pay was more. The big money has always been in europe and russia because the soccer teams basically fund the basketball teams. They are connected and normally have the same names. Similar to college football.
 

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:skip: What did infrastructure have to to with the magic that occurred at the Rucker? In the hood, the only "western infrastructure" was the hoop. Didn't no coach show them how to do all that.

Tell me, since i don't follow sports, which sports have been completely re invented by other diasporic africans.

Im pressing it bc, generally, to push a discipline outside of its usual bounds is an inherently rebellious action and, frankly, i don't see that spirit in them. If the white coach said, 'Thats not how we do it," I'm expecting very little push back, hence no innovation.

But tell me if I'm wrong, preferably with examples. :jbhmm:
Rucker is infrastructure though. There’s organizers and coaches and you have to have a name to play there. It’s funded by NYC Parks and companies like Hot 97 and Nike.

Those were organized street ball tournaments with guys who were pros and kids in the pro/college pipeline.

The African sports infrastructure is very weak.

There’s kids here NBA bound playing in prep schools with multimillion dollar funding and in AAU traveling leagues with coaches who were pros and shyt.
 
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Rucker is infrastructure though. There’s organizers and coaches and you have to have a name to play there.

Those were organized street ball tournaments with guys who were pros and kids in the pro/college pipeline.

This is also true just like AAU. Even pro coaches, agents and shoe companies would be out there. Crazy money is pumped in rucker and AAU.
 

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Also wanted to say that this will be funded by the NBA same as the NBA funding the WNBA and G-League who don't make shyt.

These guys would really be making shyt and when you convert it to the money in their country...they will be lucky to get 20k to 30k USD if even that. This is all about promotion and PR.

Or are we gonna forget about all the US international football leagues to find more consumers of the NFL? NFL Europe says hello.
 

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Tatum not mixed either..:mjlol:. Or are we saying this cause tatum momma mixed or looks mixed so is tatum.

If thats the case Malcolm X, Muhammad Ali, grant hill were mixed too...:mjlol:
Malcolm mother was a biracial he had reddish hair and was light skinned that makes him mixed. I even seen documents of him classified as a “mulatto” back then.

Of course Tatum is mixed.
 

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:skip: What did infrastructure have to to with the magic that occurred at the Rucker? In the hood, the only "western infrastructure" was the hoop. Didn't no coach show them how to do all that.

Tell me, since i don't follow sports, which sports have been completely re invented by other diasporic africans.

Im pressing it bc, generally, to push a discipline outside of its usual bounds is an inherently rebellious action and, frankly, i don't see that spirit in them. If the white coach said, 'Thats not how we do it," I'm expecting very little push back, hence no innovation.

But tell me if I'm wrong, preferably with examples. :jbhmm:
Soccer. Flair and spontaneity are two things Africans love, regardless of where they may be.African, carribean and afro-south american soccer players being more eccentric and skillful has little to do with rebellion but more with their nature.Their approach to the game is directly opposite to the European emphasis on efficiency and results, which robs the game of its skill most times.
 

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Soccer. Flair and spontaneity are two things Africans love, regardless of where they may be.African, carribean and afro-south american soccer players being more eccentric and skillful has little to do with rebellion but more with their nature.Their approach to the game is directly opposite to the European emphasis on efficiency and results, which robs the game of its skill most times.

So true

Soccer is the black man's sport & all the the greatest most popular players of all time, are black men.

and all the good white players - are usually copying the flair of black men.

The black man just has too much swag in everything he does.

European men are robotic and textbook.
 

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Malcolm mother was a biracial he had reddish hair and was light skinned that makes him mixed. I even seen documents of him classified as a “mulatto” back then.

Of course Tatum is mixed.

Breh they are not classified here in the states as mixed / biracial. Is obama kids considered mixed / biracial. Heck naw.

So no malcolm or tatum is not by american definition what is mixed / biracial.
 

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The NBA has wanted FIFA status since waaaaaaay back when David Stern was working under Larry O'Brien. That kind of hegemony has global impact and affects entire economies and governments. The setup is for the US to become like UEFA, where they throw money at talent from all over to come play in those leagues.


"Won't buy their jerseys"? Are you serious? Barcelona is still selling Samuel Eto'o jerseys, Chelsea is still selling Drogba jerseys, Arsenal's Thierry Henry jersey is a must have for any fan, French national team jerseys can't be printed fast enough:gucci:





How infected in your thinking do you have to be to actually be convinced that your status as a servant class, as workforce and entertainment, should be guaranteed and everlasting because...you have swag? This is your wisdom?

Really? :comeon:
 
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