What is Black British culture?

[Amor fati]

then its the same because not everbody in london speaks in og cockney
i've been to houston and everbody sounds funny

Of course, did I not mention Estuary or London Street talk(That road men ting init)? Nope Houston sound cool compared to London that shyt is annoying and unbearable to hear.

 

[mortuus est]

Of course, did I not mention Estuary or London Street talk(That road men ting init)? Nope Houston sound cool compared to London that shyt is annoying and unbearable to hear.

sound like dj skrew and lil flip brehs

 

[Amor fati]

I said to my mum yesterday, “what’s Black-British culture?” She said, “What? We don’t have one. England is an import country.”

She’s 60 next year.

I believe every word you say about Angolans. He’s not the first I’ve met that bragged about his colonised heritage either; it just flummoxes me that the people who do it are always darkskinned. One of my best friends in school looked exactly like Rihanna and she was Angolan; she’d get mad as shyt when people told her she’s too pretty to be African.

The dude said to me, “I’m figuring you’ve got some slave surname” then proceeded to tell me his European name with pride like he got his through choice.

“Luis Fernandez Swarez C00nez” or whatever. He was bragging about his family having links to crooked politicians over there & praising white Jesus for his daughter having a European surname as well. “At least she ain’t got some long West African name. Their name’s don’t carry pride like ours.”

I almost fell out my chair.

He wasnt raised in The UK either so I can’t even say “England rubbed off on him.”

LOL dude has the most common Portuguese name That Luis guy is a straight up idiot I got an idea what type of typical Angolan he is.
I give props to my late Grandad for changing his last name to a Kikongo one, even though he would say some c00nish stuff at times. I don't want to unfairly judge my people but hella Angolans that I encountered in Angola gave off c00n vibes from the shyt they say or their way of viewing things.

I have an auntie that starts shytting on and throwing west Africans under the bus everytime she gets wronged by one she even claims that they are c00ning while she's also c00ning.

The Angolans or Portuguese Angolans that live here England usually stay amongst Portuguese speakers they barley acquaint with English speakers so indeed England never rubbed off on them.

 

[Speaking Womanese]

LOL dude has the most common Portuguese name That Luis guy is a straight up idiot I got an idea what type of typical Angolan he is.
I give props to my late Grandad for changing his last name to a Kikongo one, even though he would say some c00nish stuff at times. I don't want to unfairly judge my people but hella Angolans that I encountered in Angola gave off c00n vibes from the shyt they say or their way of viewing things.

I have an auntie that starts shytting on and throwing west Africans under the bus everytime she gets wronged by one she even claims that they are c00ning while she's also c00ning.

The Angolans or Portuguese Angolans that live here England usually stay amongst Portuguese speakers they barley acquaint with English speakers so indeed England never rubbed off on them.

Hear the drop: he said “my Portuguese isn’t actually that strong and white Portuguese people roll their eyes at me at work”

Apparently he was named after some MP or politician over there or something? He’s got a weird beef with West Africans - he kept shyttin on them throughout the entire convo. You’d think he was Ronaldo the way he was talking; he insisted West Africans (Nigerians) are inferior and his Portugese name has more of a “flair” when you say it as opposed to their names.

He’s dead serious when he’s saying it too.

 

[Amor fati]

Hear the drop: he said “my Portuguese isn’t actually that strong and white Portuguese people roll their eyes at me at work”

Apparently he was named after some MP or politician over there or something? He’s got a weird beef with West Africans - he kept shyttin on them throughout the entire convo. You’d think he was Ronaldo the way he was talking; he insisted West Africans (Nigerians) are inferior and his Portugese name has more of a “flair” when you say it as opposed to their names.

He’s dead serious when he’s saying it too.

That dude has a major inferiority complex and has a strong form of Stockholm syndrome, I wouldn't wanna be named after a fat flabby and sick insignificant MP. He's obviously a weak link it's natural for weak links to oppress, and talk shyt about other weak links, in this case, he assumes that West Africans are good for nothing hence why he uses them as a vent to shyt on.

These are the type of dudes that I avoid making long dialog with, I'd only limit the conversation to small talk as there's no point discussing certain things with the ignorant.

Are you Nigerian? and what part of London are you from?

 

[Speaking Womanese]

That dude has a major inferiority complex and has a strong form of Stockholm syndrome, I wouldn't wanna be named after a fat flabby and sick insignificant MP. He's obviously a weak link it's natural for weak links to oppress, and talk shyt about other weak links, in this case, he assumes that West Africans are good for nothing hence why he uses them as a vent to shyt on.

These are the type of dudes that I avoid making long dialog with, I'd only limit the conversation to small talk as there's no point discussing certain things with the ignorant.

Are you Nigerian? and what part of London are you from?

Truss. I’ve been ignoring his calls for a few weeks, I think he got the message now lol.

No, I’m not Naija.

I’m from South London.

Where are you from?

 

[Amor fati]

Truss. I’ve been ignoring his calls for a few weeks, I think he got the message now lol.

No, I’m not Naija.

I’m from South London.

Where are you from?

Yeah to hell with that clown

I assume you must be from Streatham, Croydon or Brixton? I'm actually originally from South London myself but I've been residing North West in the Lancashire county for a while now.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

I could care less, I'm just showing dude that there are rappers in England that can flow... well back then anyway.

I prefer new era UK rappers but I do give akala, kano, wiley, etc props.
Them young nikkas got something tho.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Do Carribean and African Brits beef

The old ones talk about Caribreh like they talk about us.

 

[Speaking Womanese]

Yeah to hell with that clown

I assume you must be from Streatham, Croydon or Brixton? I'm actually originally from South London myself but I've been residing North West in the Lancashire county for a while now.

Yeah I’m from Brixton.

What’s Lancashire like?

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Sorry breh but im gonna have to be petty breh.
Arent your two biggest rappers.


And

Drake is CANADIAN.
Bruno Mars isn't a rapper.
Your weird foreign ears and eyes need a tune up.
Who was that idiot who said "high life", a musical genre, was "derived" from the Akan?
Bro...they were listening to AA big band, jazz, funk...and made their OWN VERSION...that's called influence and derivation.
"Mans broke can't afford proper holiday"
Not this shyt again.
So much recycled faggy-cheeky.
A thinly disguised "you can't come see us! We exist!"

Nobody cares.

 

[Apollo Creed]

The old ones talk about Caribreh like they talk about us.

They have an interesting dynamic because black people overall make up such a tiny number of the overall population there but the “native black brit” (the original wave of black folks from pre 1900s) population (from what I have seen) seems to be damn near non existent.

From what I see it seems culturally the island folks/people with that ancestry shaped the culture there and everyone else simply adds on.

I think Jamaicans and Nigerians make up the bulk of the ancestry there but the Jamaicans seem like they are the foundation (I assume they immigrated there earlier).

 

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Drake is CANADIAN.
Bruno Mars isn't a rapper.
Your weird foreign ears and eyes need a tune up.
Who was that idiot who said "high life", a musical genre, was "derived" from the Akan?
Bro...they were listening to AA big band, jazz, funk...and made their OWN VERSION...that's called influence and derivation.
"Mans broke can't afford proper holiday"
Not this shyt again.
So much recycled faggy-cheeky.
A thinly disguised "you can't come see us! We exist!"

Nobody cares.

Sounds like he needs to get a passport and travel

 

[IllmaticDelta]

They have an interesting dynamic because black people overall make up such a tiny number of the overall population there but the “native black brit” (the original wave of black folks from pre 1900s) population (from what I have seen) seems to be damn near non existent.

From what I see it seems culturally the island folks/people with that ancestry shaped the culture there and everyone else simply adds on.

I think Jamaicans and Nigerians make up the bulk of the ancestry there but the Jamaicans seem like they are the foundation (I assume they immigrated there earlier).

pretty much.....the urban pop culture in the UK is founded on

- british jamaicans (dancehall, reggae, soundsystems)
- working class whites (since the 80's, they were the ones who imported afroamerican EDM music that would set the stage for all UK pop of the 90's to present)
- the typical undercurrent of afroamerican pop culture ( self explanatory)

....it doesn't seem like any other type of west indian is that important to black british pop culture. Other west indian types (along with african) seem to be more important to Frech Black pop culture/history.

-as far as Africans go with British Pop culture, their impact has only been more recent with the rise of afrobeats. In many articles I ran across, british Nigerians basically said they're glad they have they're own sound now because they were looked down on getting reactions from the dominant british jamaican population.

African beats are back, under new management

Nigerian and Ghanaian artists are inspiring a crossover of African rhythms, hip-hop and dancehall. Now Wyclef Jean and Sean Paul are getting in on the act

A new sound is bringing sunny positivity to the charts thanks to the input of African and African-heritage artists. Pop-dance hits with links to Nigeria and Ghana have been enjoying both high placings and longevity – a sign that something significant is taking place.

This phenomenon has acquired a name – Afrobeats – to differentiate the fusion of polished house/R&B production, Jamaican dancehall and African rhythms from the classic big-band Afrobeat purveyed by the likes of Fela Kuti. It is a multifarious scene that encompasses both first-generation British talents and African producers with their increasing ambitions to reach into global markets.

It has been bubbling up for a couple of years, though this month sees releases from two key players – Nigerian star D’Banj’s “Bother You”, the follow-up to his breakthrough UK hit “Oliver Twist”, while “Dangerous Love” features reggae star Sean Paul, though fans will be excited that it is the latest single from a Londoner of Ghanaian descent, Richard Abiona, aka Fuse ODG.

Abiona’s three releases to date have all been sizeable hits – his party-starting debut “Azonto” spread the eponymous Ghanaian dance worldwide via word of mouth and a viral video, then came Top 10 entry “Antenna”, aided by a remix cameo from Wyclef Jean. Finally, “Million Pound Girl (Badder Than Bad)” peaked at No 5 in January of this year, so there are high expectations surrounding his propulsive follow-up. The ease with which a former Fugees star and now Paul have collaborated with Abiona suggest parallels with western sounds, though you do pick up recognisable Afrobeat rhythms.

Much of this is down to Abiona’s varied upbringing. Born in the UK, he went to primary school in Ghana when his parents returned there, but came back aged 11. During this period, he struggled at first to fit in, imbibing high-life groups from his mum and dad’s heritage at home, while hearing So Solid Crew on the radio and getting into US hip-hop. “[I was] constantly hearing [African music] being played in the house by my parents,” he explains. “I grew up on hip-hop so that’s had a huge impact on me and still does today. But also just being in the UK and listening to the radio and music here like garage, grime and synth-driven dance music.”


t was a trip to Ghana in 2011 that set him on the path he follows today. There, he hooked up with a performer from an earlier generation. Reggie Rockstone, also UK-born and of Ghanaian heritage. In the mid-Nineties, he had helped found an earlier Afro-rap fusion – hip-life – that continues to thrive with Reggie himself still a respected player. “Azonto” was inspired by this stay, forging Abiona’s current sound – “a fusion of African percussion and western dance sounds”.

A London-based DJ, Capital Xtra host Abrantee, has given the name Afrobeats to a melange that owes as much to funky house, R&B and dancehall as it does to hip-hop. On his show you can hear anything from the raw sound of hip-life duo R2Bees to the smoother R&B delivery of P-Square, identical twins Peter and Paul Okoye who are signed to Akon’s Konvict Music label. They have yet to push their recordings in the UK, though have played major live shows at such venues as Hammersmith Apollo.

Another key difference nowadays is that African heritage is becoming as accepted or even as cool as, Afro-Caribbean, so British rapper Giggs can be found collaborating with British-Nigerian vocalist Moelogo. A figure without need of that support is D’Banj, a major star across Africa, whose new single “Bother You” shows a writer progressing lyrically. While his previous hit, released via Kanye West’s Good Music, used wit to highlight his ambition, this single was apparently inspired by best-selling novel Half of a Yellow Sun (the video features exerpts from the movie).

African beats are back, under new management

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As Mr Eazi recently discovered, on the Ghanaian vs. Nigerian end of spectrum, it can be just a jovial question of whose jollof rice is best. But it can be a different story on the Nigerian vs. Jamaican end, it wasn't too long ago that the rivalry paralleled a Lord Of The Mics soundclash, with Jamaicans swiping at African "booboo-scratching" poverty while Nigerians claimed superiority over uncouth "Jamos." All the while, as a product of both cultures, I'd look on in bemusement, thinking how terribly similar (side-note: loud and ostentatiously proud) they can be.

But it didn't matter what I knew to be true. Jamaica's chart dominance during my 90s childhood meant I was more likely to sing along to Shabba Ranks' "Ting-A-Ling" than any Fela Kuti track. Therefore it was far cooler to be a black British Jamaican—end of. But now things are changing. From Donae'O to Sneakbo, the young, gifted and black diaspora are rewriting the rules of black music, blending afrobeat drums, bashment basslines and trap bars. British-African musicians who, in their younger years may have been teased for adopting Caribbean culture, are singing classic dancehall lines with their chest. We no longer need to stick to our "own" sound, limited by the idea of one rigid cultural identity. And thank fukk for that.

Afro Bashment Proves the Black Diaspora Won’t Be Pigeonholed

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I watched some independent film showing that. I also read an article where some Nigerians there said that because of Afro beat it's the first time they are proud of their heritage. I'm sorry, but Nigerian Brits have always been corny to me. Even my uncles back home clown them. One of them said "I'm glad your father raised you in the US. You're not like the one to come back from The UK. Wearing shirts and ties, don't know how to do anything."

some British Nigerians talking about some of those things you mentioned

Back to Africa: The New World Afro-Diaspora Roots of Modern African Music


one of them cats of jamaican descent, threw shots at the afroswing movement because to him,t hey're biting british jamaican music

 

[Apollo Creed]

pretty much.....the urban pop culture in the UK is founded on

- british jamaicans (dancehall, reggae, soundsystems)
- working class whites (since the 80's, they were the ones who imported afroamerican EDM music that would set the srage for all UK pop of the 90's to present)
- the typical undercurrent of afroamerican pop culture ( self explanatory)

....it doesn't seem like any other type of west indian is that important to black british pop culture. Other west indian types (along with african) seem to be more important to Frech Black pop culture/history.

-as far as Africans go with British Pop culture, their impact has only been more recent with the rise of afrobeats. In many articles I ran across, british Nigerians basically said they're glad they have they're own sound now because they were looked down on getting reactions from the dominant british jamaican population.

African beats are back, under new management

Nigerian and Ghanaian artists are inspiring a crossover of African rhythms, hip-hop and dancehall. Now Wyclef Jean and Sean Paul are getting in on the act




African beats are back, under new management

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Afro Bashment Proves the Black Diaspora Won’t Be Pigeonholed

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Back to Africa: The New World Afro-Diaspora Roots of Modern African Music


one of them cats of jamaican descent, threw shots at the afroswing movement because to him,t hey're biting british jamaican music

Yeah I dont know the extent of the “beef” but Nigerians seemed like they were too recent to The UK to have contributed much to the foundation of the culture their.

From what I saw it seemed African Immigrants were more so the black infulencers in Paris (probably due to the sheer number of french speaking African nations).