peaceful freedom right? you do what you like and i do what i like neither of us victimize each other or anybody else and we let each other live.
What is Outer Heaven (Metal Gear Solid)?
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Damn had to go look that shyt up
A world that would be united together in which people would respect each other as human beings, as opposed to remaining in constant conflict.
OOoooDamn had to go look that shyt up
A world that would be united together in which people would respect each other as human beings, as opposed to remaining in constant conflict.
Yea i guess they really fukked that up. 
Snake and Raiden are the balance i guess.Or are they just status quo fukkboys.
After reading up on this, it seems Big Boss did all this in response to Zero, who he thought was fukking up.
ltheghost
Payin Debts.... N40
I thought it was for the original intent from stopping soldiers from being ordered to die by governments. The same governments that covered up or used the soldier's deaths for political gain. That's why Boss had to die for America.
It was only then that he came to understand what had transpired. He
understood why everything had fallen into place the way it was. He
understood the boss's mission. He realized that the country she swore her
life to threw her away for its own sake. To a nation, her loyalty was an
asset, and her self was expendable.
Outer Heaven was built for warriors in a world where they were slowly
becoming unwanted. As olive branches spread throughout the world, the
times changed but soldiers did not. Big Boss had always been a solider.
Fighting was all he was good at. His dream, manifested in Outer Heaven,
was a haven for soldiers such as himself that sought to live their lives
without being the expendable property of a nation they no longer cared
for.
This is some ill shyt if you think about what has been going on with soldiers coming home from war.
It was only then that he came to understand what had transpired. He
understood why everything had fallen into place the way it was. He
understood the boss's mission. He realized that the country she swore her
life to threw her away for its own sake. To a nation, her loyalty was an
asset, and her self was expendable.
Outer Heaven was built for warriors in a world where they were slowly
becoming unwanted. As olive branches spread throughout the world, the
times changed but soldiers did not. Big Boss had always been a solider.
Fighting was all he was good at. His dream, manifested in Outer Heaven,
was a haven for soldiers such as himself that sought to live their lives
without being the expendable property of a nation they no longer cared
for.
This is some ill shyt if you think about what has been going on with soldiers coming home from war.
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i think in general mgs tries to reach with philosophical viewpoints ie the existentialism "create your own identity" type speech at the end of sons of liberty by snake to raiden who essentially was this poster boy for existentialist alienation i guess. also there was the "i cant die" theme with fortune who was having some weird existentialist crisis about that throughout the game. theres more but i cant remember it all now. honestly its cool after you play a mgs game and you get that sense of resolution and totalness during the ending cutscenes i guess but looking back it is pretty cheesy and just heavy handed over the top reaching...
maybe outer heaven is just the series' way of heavy handily exploring or demonstrating the stance of nihilism
maybe outer heaven is just the series' way of heavy handily exploring or demonstrating the stance of nihilism
Outer heaven is a retarded idea for a video game that no one seen blow up to what it is today. Now koijima has to come up with a even more retarded backstory for it to shoehorn it into mgs lore
Deezay
All Star
It's where they sent the rest of the Clone Troopers.
SkillClash
Banned
So Solid Snake was a pawn of the Patriots the whole time ,sent to kill Big Boss
Zero the GOAT Manipulator
Zero the GOAT Manipulator
It's more complex than that. Remember Big Boss was an OG member of the Patriots and left. He knows their endgame which was control. BB's endgame was the complete LACK of control. They both are very wrong in how they want to go about doing it. But it feels good to know that you are playing a villain sometimes.
I mean this is a guy that wants the world to be in perpetual tribal warfare because he thinks its the only thing that sets humans free. While the Patriots feel humans can't be trusted to be free because the only thing they WOULD do is kill each other cause nuclear holocaust ect.
Neither side is right nor goes about their goals in virtuous ways....they are no good guys in MGS besides Solid Snake and Otacon. That's the beauty of it.
SkillClash
Banned
so did Solid Snake ever fight Big Boss?
Tryna Makit
High plains drifter
The GOAT franchise
, Such in-depth discussions on ideology.
, Such in-depth discussions on ideology.
SkillClash
Banned
did Big Boss hate Zero cause he cloned him?
