What is Scottie Pippen's family tree?

[god shamgod]

they didn't overachieve in '94. they lost more people in '95.
the '95 team was stripped down even further than the '94 team. most notably, horace grant was gone.

you see when Jordan came back, they still got ran out the gym in the 2nd round.
they had to re-tool and build a new superteam with rodman and the additions of harper, etc etc.

They did overachieve, the bulls were projected to be a 6-8 seed before the 93-94 season.This is how I know y'all wasn't old enough to watch that era

Coach Phil Jackson, attempt to squeeze 45 victories out of the Chicago Bulls. Aboard Air Jordan, the Bulls won 57 last season. Barring the acquisition of an impact scorer, or another sudden crossover career move by Jordan, the Bulls shouldn't count on home-court playoff advantage again -- not even in the first round.

Chicago fans will just have to accept that nine years of His Airness and three titles are more than anyone has a right to expect, and that the time has come to find out what it's like to battle for a playoff spot. Jordan's absence may allow a few players to blossom—point guard B.J. Armstrong comes to mind—but it weakens the Bulls in every area. Add to that the inevitable period of adjustment caused by the addition of swingman Toni Kukoc of Croatia, and...sorry, this was supposed to cheer up Bull fans, wasn't it?

No they weren't they brought back everybody except paxson,cartwright,scott williams and grant who outside grant were all minimal role players.

They added harper and that white dude larry krystosomethin the only loss was grant, and kukoc started at pf and provided the same scoring.

bj armstrong averaged the same #'s as he did when he made the all star team.So how did they go from winning 55 games in '94 to a pace of 42 games in '95? because they overachieved

Step your ball knowledge up fam, you don't know wtf you're talking about.Bulls got ran out the gym is more jordan blew game 1 with 2 turnovers in the last minute,they won games 2 and 4(series was tied 2-2) and blew a 9 point lead in the last 2-3 mins in game 6

 

[Reggie]

In some ways LeBron might have started his own family tree but by no means am I saying he's the goat

I see the Pippen comparison to some extent, Miami Bron was alot like Pippen defensively. I just dont feel like it fits him well enough

LeBron's also a different player then he was 10 years ago, his shooting is much improved.

On a side note, Shawn Marion is part of the Pippen family tree

And Amar'e is part of the Shawn Kemp tree, Blake Griffin is the homo ginger grandson

Aren't all 3 of those last players part of the Darryl Dawkins tree?

 

[Lord Bison]

If we talking about family tree's then we need to acknowledge that Nate Robinson is out of the Spud Webb family tree

 

[Wacky D]

They did overachieve, the bulls were projected to be a 6-8 seed before the 93-94 season.This is how I know y'all wasn't old enough to watch that era

projected by whom? people who over-valued Jordan and may have written off pippen and the others?

I was more into basketball back then, than I am now, so miss with with that "yall weren't around" bullchit.

theres bullchit projections being thrown around on TV as we speak. and when they don't come true, are we gonna revisit this offseason in 2042 and act like those projections were golden?

I don't live by other people's opinions. that's what YOU do.

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They did overachieve, the bulls were projected to be a 6-8 seed before the 93-94 season.This is how I know y'all wasn't old enough to watch that era

No they weren't they brought back everybody except paxson,cartwright,scott williams and grant who outside grant were all minimal role players.

They added harper and that white dude larry krystosomethin the only loss was grant, and kukoc started at pf and provided the same scoring.
bj armstrong averaged the same #'s as he did when he made the all star team.So how did they go from winning 55 games in '94 to a pace of 42 games in '95? because they overachieved

Step your ball knowledge up fam, you don't know wtf you're talking about.Bulls got ran out the gym is more jordan blew game 1 with 2 turnovers in the last minute,they won games 2 and 4(series was tied 2-2) and blew a 9 point lead in the last 2-3 mins in game 6

how did they go from winning 55 games to 42??? BECAUSE THEY LET THEIR 2ND BEST PLAYER WALK AND GOT NOTHING IN RETURN!!!!!!! cmon man. BE SMART SON!!!!!

you put too much emphasis on other people's quotes. phil Jackson said that bullchit to take the heat off the front office and keep himself out the hotseat as well. didn't even mention horrace grant. just Jordan, who wasn't even there the previous season.

horace grant was a crippling lost. and the team that picked him up, spanked the bulls WITH JORDAN in the playoffs and went to the finals.

roleplayers are important. also, paxson & cartwright were starters during the original 3-peat. not sure if paxson was still starting in '93, but he hit the shot that clinched the chip. and you got people who to this day claim that scott Williams in '01 being suspended is what kept the bucks out of the finals.

they didn't go on the 2nd 3-peat run just because Jordan came back. they needed rodman and they had to re-tool the whole team.

 

[UpAndComing]

Paul Pierce family tree


PP >>>> Carmelo >>>> Jayson Tatum

 

[god shamgod]

man you aint talking bout shyt, it was a chore to get thru this wakk ass post.Don't waste your time replying , I ain't reading it

Tired of exchanges with remedial people on this site, dude hyping scott williams and horace grant.Nah you aint watch that era I don't give a fukk what you say

edit just to son you some more the '95 bulls were the 2nd rated defensive team in the league, the '94 bulls were 6th.They lost horace grant and had better defense and kukoc averaged the same 15 ppg grant averaged.You played yourself

 

[BBG]

Paul Pierce family tree


PP >>>> Carmelo >>>> Jayson Tatum

Aight at this point y'all just trying to troll my thread to death






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@god shamgod you from Chicago? We don't shyt on Horace Grant's contributions round here

He may not have been the defender that rodman was, but rodman didn't have the offensive skill set Grant did. Both were necessary pieces to our chips and their contributions are forever appreciated.

 

[bigillwill06]

Iguodala easily. Although pippen was waaaaaay better at everything.

 

[god shamgod]

Aight at this point y'all just trying to troll my thread to death






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@god shamgod you from Chicago? We don't shyt on Horace Grant's contributions round here

He may not have been the defender that rodman was, but rodman didn't have the offensive skill set Grant did. Both were necessary pieces to our chips and their contributions are forever appreciated.

I saw both 3 peat teams live fukk outta here nikka, miss me with these regurgitated info you were 3 years old back then

 

[Wacky D]

Paul Pierce family tree


PP >>>> Carmelo >>>> Jayson Tatum

hell to the naw.

that's Bernard king's tree.

man you aint talking bout shyt, it was a chore to get thru this wakk ass post.Don't waste your time replying , I ain't reading it

Tired of exchanges with remedial people on this site, dude hyping scott williams and horace grant.Nah you aint watch that era I don't give a fukk what you say

edit just to son you some more the '95 bulls were the 2nd rated defensive team in the league, the '94 bulls were 6th.They lost horace grant and had better defense and kukoc averaged the same 15 ppg grant averaged.You played yourself

didn't even read this.

as soon as I saw the Juelz gif, I knew not to waste my time.

this forum has turned into the booth. ​

 

[Columbo]

Paul Pierce family tree


PP >>>> Carmelo >>>> Jayson Tatum

I agree. Its close between Pierce and Melo, Pierce says himself Carmelo is the toughest player he ever had to defend.

Melo couldve been better if he made a few minor tweaks to his game, Pierce was the less selfish of the two and was better defensively. Hurts me to admit that

I agree with @Wacky D too Bernard King started the family tree

 

[Wacky D]

I agree with @Wacky D too Bernard King started the family tree

yep.

melo better than pierce tho.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

The swiss army knife Small Forwards like Iggy, Odom, Paul George, Kawhi, Jimmy Butler and even Bron to an extent.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Latrell Sprewell, Iggy, Kawhi

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MJ although the goat, belongs on the Dr J tree. And Vince Carter is one of his sons, Iverson too and of course Kobe...

Westbrook is basically the grandson with a learning disability

And I agree this is not meant to disrespect anybody, well except maybe Russ...

Yeah as great as MJ was, he wasn't anything we haven't seen before or since stylistically....just the absolute best of that mold - the 6'5"-6'7" athletic swingman.

 

[get these nets]

We often measure greatness by the impact the player had on the game. An instance of that is when you have a whole generation of players modeling their game around you. We have the MJ tree with all his sons, the Kobe tree ( which really is just branches from Jordan's tree but I'll let stans cook ), AI of course had nikkas that wanted to be like him, Lebron has nikkas that's been in the league for years openly worshipping him, all the way down to the most recent massive impact we've seen with Curry and the inevitable sons he will produce in the league.


What about Pippen? Jordan bred Kobe which bred Westbrook,Taytum, etc. Shaq bred Dwight, Larry Bird had the blueprint for the goofy unathletic 3&D players etc.

Dwight isn't in the same universe as Shaq, Bird is a god compared to his children, etc. So don't come in this bytch thinking I'm disrespecting anybody I just can't really see Pippen's personal touch on the game like I can see other greats.


This obviously isn't a knock on him, I'm born and raised in Chicago that nikka's a legend forever I'm just trying to find patterns in styles of play. Discuss

Grant Hill is the obvious one..................Grant was given the alpha role but was more suited to be an all around secondary/complementary player like Pippen.

Pippen descends from the Sidney Moncrief/Paul Pressey tree though.
Don Nelson created the point forward position with those Bucks teams.