What is up with this "SJW" thing? It's become beyond annoying.

[Skeptic]

Every decent person is for "social justice". However, some on the left go off the deep end, and their actions are informed by social justice dogma rather than logic and reason. Those are the SJWs I have a problem with. And I'm firmly on the left; there's nothing alt-right or social conservative about me.

 

[Black Panther]

I see...
I concede that bad actors(racist) will always be present within the system(on both sides) to oppress people of color, and actively seek to diminish the system itself and the actors ability to oppress, you believe we can eliminate, or significantly reduce the oppression of the system by working with the good whites to weed out the bad ones...
Is that about right?

As well as reforming the system.

Spoiler

Eliminate mandatory minimums.

Issue reparations for Blacks. (Vouchers for higher ed, payments, lump sum, etc.)

Decriminalize marijuana possession, and grant pardons for those with extended sentences for [only] drug possession.

Police reform.

Lobbying reform.

Many others.

Everything in the spoiler tags are things that can be voted for.

No excuses. :bpufedup:

 

[DEAD7]

As well as reforming the system.

Spoiler

Eliminate mandatory minimums.

Issue reparations for Blacks. (Vouchers for higher ed, payments, lump sum, etc.)

Decriminalize marijuana possession, and grant pardons for those with extended sentences for [only] drug possession.

Police reform.

Lobbying reform.

Many others.

Everything in the spoiler tags are things that can be voted for.

No excuses. :bpufedup:

Sure, I just think its all far fetched and naive... more so than opposing government. Granted it probably feels better morally.

Lobbying, you are asking congress to vote against something they benefit from directly... that's silly in my opinion.
Police reform? I don't believe there is a reform that will address Nazis in uniform.
Reparations has already been rejected by Bernie the most progressive member of the DNC

I lack your faith in the system and the cacs who run it.
I wish I could understand where the liberal belief/faith in the Amerikkkan govt. comes from...

 

[BoBurnz]

"Empathy is for fakkits " is basically what it translates too.

 

[88m3]

Every decent person is for "social justice". However, some on the left go off the deep end, and their actions are informed by social justice dogma rather than logic and reason. Those are the SJWs I have a problem with. And I'm firmly on the left; there's nothing alt-right or social conservative about me.

Are MRAs not SJWs?




I think you're going to need to come up with some relevant examples. You've got around 4ish sentences strung together there without saying anything so I'm getting a pretty conservative/alt-right vibe.

 

[NoMayo15]

You're either missing the point or purposely distorting it. There are dozens of articles, books, and documentaries delving into the origins of the Alt-right, and all of them note Gamergate as the real Genesis of that toxic shyt collective of "people". Angela Nagle is probably the most notable author about all of this. If you genuinely care about this and aren't just trolling, you can peep a number of interviews from her on this subject. She did a documentary and book called "Kill All Normies" on the rise of these buffoons, and like pretty much like everyone else's conclusions, Gamergate is front and center.

www.vox.com/platform/amp/conversations/2017/7/21/15998246/alt-right-donald-trump-angela-nagle-kill-all-normies-interview&ved=2ahUKEwjOpcDM_9PdAhWITN8KHZpfDLo4ChAWMAF6BAgJEAE&usg=AOvVaw295Tw9uDVmqw3e7lJms_uo

Oh really?

Interviewer: "Is there a “Big Bang” moment for the alt-right, a cultural event that helped explode it into being?"

Nagle: "Trump was the big explosive moment. Obviously there have been reactionary online for many years before Trump, but Trump’s campaign was the moment where it all went completely mainstream. Gamergate was very significant in bringing together a whole cross section of people who were anti–political correctness, but a lot of these people weren’t necessarily right-wing. They were cultural libertarians or free speech enthusiasts, but there wasn’t a lot of political organizing. That changed with Trump. All the anti-PC stuff, the anti-immigration politics, the trolling campaigns — Trump boosted all of that into the mainstream."

From the mouth of someone you consider somewhat of an authority ... the real genesis of this movement coincides with the creation of Trump as a political figure. GG was significant, but not THE genesis. So whose distorting whose words here..?

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

People who care deeply about video games are just virtue signalling. No one really cares about video games that much. No one is that much of a worthless piece of shyt.

 

[Skeptic]

Are MRAs not SJWs?




I think you're going to need to come up with some relevant examples. You've got around 4ish sentences strung together there without saying anything so I'm getting a pretty conservative/alt-right vibe.

Yes, you're right. I tend to be brief on here because I've always had trouble putting my thoughts into words.
SJWs seem to be directly opposed to MRAs.
Here is a list I found that causes me friction with SJWs:

• A needlessly hysterical, permanently outraged attitude to social ills
• Being too dogmatic and black-and-white in their views; refusing to acknowledge the nuanced complexity of human society; painting large groups of people in broad strokes
• Enforcing a confrontational and incendiary style of discussion; eagerness to label others as oppressors; holding ordinary people personally responsible for atrocities
• Demanding that others change their attitudes and behavior without a willingness to engage in respectful dialogue; refusal to see respect and tolerance as a two-way street
• Loudly broadcasting their own views while attempting to deprive their opponents of a platform
• Smugly self-aggrandizing their own slacktivism
• Equating pious humorlessness with moral rectitude
• A complete inability to laugh at themselves

Social justice warrior - RationalWiki

 

[JBoy]

It's the new it term bashing people who hold fairly leftist leaning views, not a new phenomenon on the internet and her communities.

 

[brick james]

Yes, you're right. I tend to be brief on here because I've always had trouble putting my thoughts into words.
SJWs seem to be directly opposed to MRAs.
Here is a list I found that causes me friction with SJWs:

Social justice warrior - RationalWiki

How do MRAs not fit the bill based on that link?

All SJWs focus on different social ills to at least some degree.

 

[Tyrantus]

Yes, you're right. I tend to be brief on here because I've always had trouble putting my thoughts into words.
SJWs seem to be directly opposed to MRAs.
Here is a list I found that causes me friction with SJWs:

Social justice warrior - RationalWiki

What race are you? And are you one of those insecure weirdos that equates being an atheist to being smart/intellectual?

 

[Skeptic]

What race are you? And are you one of those insecure weirdos that equates being an atheist to being smart/intellectual?

I'm mixed (black dad, white mom). And no, absolutely not.

 

[Skeptic]

How do MRAs not fit the bill based on that link?

All SJWs focus on different social ills to at least some degree.

I don't know. Maybe I got MRAs confused with something else.

 

[brick james]

I don't know. Maybe I got MRAs confused with something else.

I thought they pretty much check every box on that link you posted. I think they just have a much different perspective of what society's ills actually are.

 

[Tyrantus]

I'm mixed (black dad, white mom). And no, absolutely not.

So you're mixed and using a term associated with the alt-right? I mean others may have the excuse about being ignorant on this, but you've done some research. You only use "SJW" for "The Left"?