I got him at Number two behind Nas. He should be in top five of most reasonable people.
What keeps Ice Cube from being labeled the GOAT rap artist?
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MidnightMercenary
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Who is your favorite? I'm curious now
Inspect Her Deck
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How is it false? Cube has never rapped over a beat like Nas is Like or The World is Yours. Cube doesn't have nikkas freestyling over his beats decades later like Nas does. People are flipping Nas beats and making hits out of them today. Cube doesn't have an album with production as good as Illmatic, an album that had the who's-who of East Coast producers at their peaks. I don't even think Cube has an album with better production than It Was Written or Lost Tapes especially running these shyts back in 2016.
Voice is subjective I disagree and lyrically Nas is atleast a tier above Cube. Cube's strength was content and storytelling he was not seeing no Nas and a bunch of others lyrically. His schemes and vocab was basic AF.
How does Cube have the better body of work? Cube has two classics, three aight albums, and everything else is forgettable to.
Nas has at least two classics, arguably three and has way more critically acclaimed albums.
Was Nas rapping over g-funk or generally funky beats or Bomb Squad type beats?
Nas has a shytty ear for beats post-IWW. His albums have had extremely spotty production. Hit and miss. As for Illmatic, yeah it had the super producers. I'd argue The Predator is up there in production, and Lethal Injection did well to replicate quality g-funk sound using low-key producers. Just like you wanna say voice is subjective so too is production anyway. That doesn't factor into who's better, but a lot of the reason that Nas' albums don't have as much acclaim as they could is down to production. Cube has never had that problem.
Once again rhyme schemes and all that is a product of one's technicality in rapping. I've said 100 times already Nas is more technical. Cube's vocab is more basic because it doesn't HAVE to be complex. That isn't what Cube is trying to do. He's trying to make powerful and meaningful music. Most West Coast MCs aren't really all about the complexity, and the times where Pac employed more advanced vocab or if you look at someone like Kurupt, you'll find in both cases they have East Coast influence, being that they came from NY and Philly respectively. The only exception as far as I know is Ras Kass.
You say Nas has at least 2? Nah he has 2 and that's it. Same with Cube, who if anything has more of a case for 3rd (Predator) than Nas. Idk where you are getting this more critically acclaimed information from.
If Cube ain't at least in your top 20 you don't have no business listening HipHop music period.
Grand_Verbalizer
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You should do your homework and nah I'm not gonna start listing a bunch of names
Inspect Her Deck
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List me 3 names.
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
The answr to the question is,delusion.
nikkas in here pickin Nas as a EMCEE over Cube for godsake...prime Cube would body Nas on the mic in any arena of this rap shyt
cube in his prime was dope to me he had the crown imo he had two classic albums etc.
Palm Tree's & Blunts
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Ice cube is top 10. Yall crazy.
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
some of yall weren't around for cube's prime cube was dope.
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Jack Trippa 3z company ho
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I'd say everything he's dropped in the last 20 years has hampered that status.
If Slick Rick can still be people top 10 based on one album then Cube should still be debatable for G.O.A.T status based in two classic solo albums,a classic E.P and a classic group album and other classic songs he made.
Inspect Her Deck
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and his albums in 2006 and 2008 were dope, and that's 18-20 years after he made his debut
people saying as if he really fell off in reality he only had 2 mediocre/bad albums out of 10
and his peak material is untouchable
MidnightMercenary
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@Inspect Her Deck Lol I feel like I ask too much
But if you were to make a new top 50, about how many Cube albums would make the cut?
But if you were to make a new top 50, about how many Cube albums would make the cut?
Jack Trippa 3z company ho
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If he would have stopped after the 1st westside connection album he might have the greatest discog of all time. Truth is he became kinda corny on the mic and released a bunch of very sub par albums and tarnished his legacy.
