What keeps so many black men out of the trades??

[Razor Reader]

Why go to a trade school when you can get paid to learn with an apprenticeship+ benefits

Get how you can. Plus some unions are So you cant soley rely on them.

 

[Razor Reader]

I always see a few.
Most urban schools, especially those with heavy Black populations try to have programmes to push kids toward trades, especially when they know a large chunk aren’t going to go to college.

Where ? Like what cities teach trades in High school?

 

[Noriega]

Get how you can. Plus some unions are So you cant soley rely on them.

True breh but a lot of those unions have opened up cuz of lawsuits from brothers, Old heads really paved the way for us by not stepping down in the face of . I know a few brothers who got union companies that employ mostly nikkas

I applied for this carpenters union last week, dudes start off at $23.35 and it go up to $47.50 after you become a journeyman

 

[Neuromancer]

I know plenty of black men doing blue collar work and making bank.

I do as well.

 

[Marco Zen]

Im talking about Carpentry, Masonry, Plumbing and becoming Electricians ?

These are Jobs that can lead to a middle class existence or even can make you rich in some circumstances.

Even though there are some You see too few black men in these jobs. What is the main obstacle(s) that keeps black men out of the trades ??

IMO as far as industrial maintenance its a race thing. I hate to sound like I'm "playing the race card" but in most of the factories I've worked at the maintenance staff is 96% cac... While the regular employees are less than half cac..

I'm not saying they don't hire qualified black maintenance technicians I just think its such a toxic environment (especially in the south) being the only token brotha on a staff full of deer hunting confederate flag waving cacs. Probably have to deal with blantant and slick racist shyt everyday..
Which makes it a job you hate coming to everyday..

I could be wrong

 

[get these nets]

Im talking about Carpentry, Masonry, Plumbing and becoming Electricians ?

These are Jobs that can lead to a middle class existence or even can make you rich in some circumstances.

Even though there are some You see too few black men in these jobs. What is the main obstacle(s) that keeps black men out of the trades ??

To me the real answer is the "fukk a book" mentality. You will see handymen but fewer LICENSED people working trades. Difference in opportunities and potential earnings between licensed tradesmen and handymen is night & day.

We all know people who DO carpentry, masonry, plumbing and electric work. Some of them are very skilled at what they do, but for whatever reason never took the steps to become licensed by the state. I can only attribute this to the general aversion to formal education/schooling/testing that exists in some segments of the community.

That might not be the answer, but it's the only way it makes sense to me. Why else would people leave money on the table like that?

Gotta spend money to make money, so I don't want to hear that "couldn't afford trade school" shyt

 

[96Blue]

Im 21 and want to work/learn a trade, but i dont know how to go about it.

 

[Lweezy]

Their own foolish selves.

 

[bobbiewishbone]

Do they still have 'shop' class in high school? That was kind of a gateway into trade school. Also, nowadays trade school is like Remington College, etc..

 

[Samori Toure]

Black men used to be in the trades heavy. In fact I have clients that are general contractors and in HVAC.

Usually to get into the trades guys start out on construction crews being go-fors and stuff like that. The problem is that since there are so many illegal immigrants in the USA on constructions crews these days then there are fewer opportunities for young black men right out of high schools to get indoctrinated in construction. If you can not get indoctrinated into basic construction then you are not likely to get into the trades.

 

[staticshock]

Because the High schools don’t push it, they rather sell these college dreams to these kids that are unattainable for most. I know a lot of union dudes who make bread, talking bout nikkas who only work 8-9 months outta the year making 95k. Nikkas act like HVAC is the only trade that exist, it’s dozens more that you probably never heard of like boilermaker or machinist.

My girl Dad in a sprinkler fitter union, dude make $51.50 an hour

“Bu bu buuu I.T. and software engineering is where it’s at ”- typical Coli breh

bruh let the Coli tell it, if you not in STEM or coding then you might as well be making minimum wage

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

This needs to change ASAP. There needs to be a movement !

Not a movement per se, but just a shift in perspective

A degree may give you more job opportunities...but having a trade/skill means that you can always find work, even if you don't have a job.

For way too many people... the only way they could even make money if they didn't have a job would be to beg,sell p*ssy or steal....they don't possess any type of skills that are actually valuable.

 

[ABlackMan]

Because like somebody else said they either not sexy or a man will look at it like it’s not manly enough. Working in plants in my early 20s showed me a lot of that shyt. Too concerned with the next man for the wrong reasons, instead of saying how can I get it like him they say I can do better or that shyt ain’t no job. Here in SC a “good job” is a plant job. Myself I refuse to settle because i know people coming out of school making more money an hour or yearly than people I know that've been in plants for decades. shyt is sickening.

 

[Samori Toure]

Lack of knowledge

And

Because we're fed images of being rappers or ball players. The others of us are pushed to go to college.

So theres a remainder of us left out

Those are not the only issues though.

The biggest issue is that Black men are being shut out of basic construction crews. That is how most people get into the trades. They start out on basic construction crews being go-fors. They then gradually get more responsibility like drywalling or flooring. From there some guys usually transition into HVAC and some become general contractors.

The next time you are out and about take a look at a general construction crew. Who do you see on it? Back in the day it used to be young Black men right out of high school. Contractors hiring of illegal immigrants end up pushing young Black men off of construction crews, which is why you are seeing fewer and fewer Black men in the trades.

 

[RTF]

Now... there's no connects. The gateway to working on trades is usually someone already doing it. That doesn't happen for black kids.

This one dude from my school (white guy) went straight into mechanics after school. He had a family friend that put him on. Eventually, got all the certs, works for Mercedes-Benz now. I could never have done that.

However... the same is often needed for a college degree type job.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Because the High schools don’t push it, they rather sell these college dreams to these kids that are unattainable for most. I know a lot of union dudes who make bread, talking bout nikkas who only work 8-9 months outta the year making 95k. Nikkas act like HVAC is the only trade that exist, it’s dozens more that you probably never heard of like boilermaker or machinist.

My girl Dad in a sprinkler fitter union, dude make $51.50 an hour

“Bu bu buuu I.T. and software engineering is where it’s at ”- typical Coli breh

These things aren't even in HS anymore....and most don't even have the funding to do it.

IMO, HBCU's should invest in trade schools....seeing that it'd do more in regards of bettering black America......especially for blacks who live in areas that aren't exactly degree-friendly.

There is no shame in working with your hands for a living.