What makes Cacklemore different than the flood of white underground acts of the late 90's/early 00's

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It's harsh truth. The vast majority of rap listeners and consumers are white, period- not just a large segment, but the clear majority of the audience. When labels, which are mostly run by white people, put out hip-hop albums, they want those albums to be catered to the majority to guarantee sales. That's just how business in general works. That means they want it to be catered to white people, first and foremost.

You think white people don't love "street singles?" One of the big reasons white people listen to rap is because it's like fantasy to them- they get to vicariously experience a ridiculous fantasy of stereotypical Black street life, which is also why gangsta rap got more and more outlandish in the first place. It's like a minstrel show. When I was at the end of high school, all the white boys I knew loved second-rate Dipset affiliates like Purple City, along with stuff like J. Hood, Murda Mook, and other artists with solely "street" appeal. Or take to the other end of the spectrum and look at 5 percent or Afrocentric rappers. If Brand Nubian or Poor Righteous Teachers did a show next week, most of the audience would be white boys. No matter what kind of hip-hop, most of its consumers are white. The commercial/regular distinction is irrelevant to that. Anyway, "regular" rap is commercial, and the other stuff is an outlier, because whatever most people are listening to IS what is regular, and most Black people are listening to the same commercial rappers that white people are and don't know all that many underground or obscure artists.

You have a point but I think certain acts like "The New Boyz" or "Chief Keef"
were entirely locally cats who made Hip Hop for a young black audience.
These were the people who consumed the music first and foremost before it got
big enough to start a movement of sorts.

The same thing that's happening with Drill music now is what
happened with jerk music.
That is that it was music primarily made for (young) black people
and eventually caught on with (young) white people.
Which is what I think original poster was getting at.
 

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It's harsh truth. The vast majority of rap listeners and consumers are white, period- not just a large segment, but the clear majority of the audience. When labels, which are mostly run by white people, put out hip-hop albums, they want those albums to be catered to the majority to guarantee sales. That's just how business in general works. That means they want it to be catered to white people, first and foremost.

You think white people don't love "street singles?" One of the big reasons white people listen to rap is because it's like fantasy to them- they get to vicariously experience a ridiculous fantasy of stereotypical Black street life, which is also why gangsta rap got more and more outlandish in the first place. It's like a minstrel show. When I was at the end of high school, all the white boys I knew loved second-rate Dipset affiliates like Purple City, along with stuff like J. Hood, Murda Mook, and other artists with solely "street" appeal. Or take to the other end of the spectrum and look at 5 percent or Afrocentric rappers. If Brand Nubian or Poor Righteous Teachers did a show next week, most of the audience would be white boys. No matter what kind of hip-hop, most of its consumers are white. The commercial/regular distinction is irrelevant to that. Anyway, "regular" rap is commercial, and the other stuff is an outlier, because whatever most people are listening to IS what is regular, and most Black people are listening to the same commercial rappers that white people are and don't know all that many underground or obscure artists.

I disagree with you about PRT and brand nubians.
 

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How is it open season on the rim fukk is you talking about?
if Top Ramen is on top the game is weak and ready for a take over fakket.... if K dot Minaj is on top then aint nobody on top and a nikka like Macklemore can just grasp control like he did last night... and become king on both coasts.
 

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if Top Ramen is on top the game is weak and ready for a take over fakket.... if K dot Minaj is on top then aint nobody on top and a nikka like Macklemore can just grasp control like he did last night... and become king on both coasts.
nikka I meant the NBA how is it open season on the rim? There are plenty of good defensive bigs in the NBA it's not only Howard, matter of fact Tim Duncan was the best big in the NBA last year. It's not "open season" on the rim.
 

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nikka I meant the NBA how is it open season on the rim? There are plenty of good defensive bigs in the NBA it's not only Howard, matter of fact Tim Duncan was the best big in the NBA last year. It's not "open season" on the rim.
Tim is flabby and sick and lost the 'ship for the Spurs... its open season on the rim...
 

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Macklemore has catchy, radio friendly hooks and basic "social issues" records and not just super duper lyrical cut your head off with verbal swords type rhymes.
 

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Nice overthinking guys.

You know why? SINGLES. When are people gonna stop sleeping on the simple idea of making radio songs that people sing along to? That's how you get hot. Always has been. You ever seen anybody walking around singing a Slug song?
 

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are yall not the same people who be all in threads talking about not caring about what these "cac" people do.
but yall steady. "oh these white people go to concerts, they buy the music"
god why dont yall worry about yourself and what you can control and play
this music shiit is not as complicated as yall making it

you dont wanna listen to these white artists, guess what.....you do not have to.
but yall rather complain about some shiit you control yourself. why?
 

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this nikka Macklemore is gettin a shytload of buzz right now outta nowhere

I didn't know half of the dudes you listed in the OP
 

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The whole def jux anticon rhyme sayers shyt was way different than this macklemore shyt. They were just making backpack nerd music but like many have said, its all timing and if u make a catchy track and white people like it its got potential to blow. This is all timing and wouldn't be surprised if these guys are never heard from again.
 

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Duncan averaged 18 and 10 with almost 3 blocks last season, he may be old but he can still ball. I'm not even going to bother stay ignant breh :russ:

Don't feed the trolls breh

Regarding cacklemore, he's a hipster faq sympathizer in 2013. What more needs to be said.

And I'm not quoting that travesty of an argument that hip hop is made for white people. You have to be a c00n or cac to agree with that :snoop: yeah they are the largest consumers but it is not made for them. You think they goin to the studio talkin I'm bout to make some music for white people. Hell no! White people are lame as shyt and are scared of most of the shyt rappers talk about. But it turns them on for some whatever homo reason. Yeah when labels get their hands on idiots like Chief Keef & soulja boy they turn them into tap dancing negros. White people are culture thieves with skills honed through thousands of years. They wait for black people to deem it cool then they swarm in like flies on an old apple. You're getting it confused on some next level shyt. Just because some rappers make music everyone can relate to doesn't mean they're making it for white people. It's so ignorant to even think that and just shows you don't know shyt about the culture.
 
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