What people don’t understand about STL’s crime rate

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But that being said, back to op’s point, these internet clowns swear and preach on these dumbass cac spewed statistics that fit their narrative...

I was watching the news yesterday and covid cases in Chicago included everyone up until Elgin Illinois in the fine print when that shyt is an hour+ away in a good day :mjtf:

@thekingsmen

As anyone who’s taken any the most basic statistics class or has any common sense / half a brain knows, you can make numbers fit any narrative depending on your audience and how you paint it to em.
 

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That logic doesn't help any other high crime city's stats.
It literally does exactly that. You have the same amount of crime going on in any ghetto in the country but a much lower population is being counted. The same amount of crime per capita with a higher population would quite obviously bring the crime rate down.
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It pains me when Black people repeat bullshyt from distorted and manipulated states.

St. Louis crime states are inflated brought on by the fact that St. Louis County and St. Louis city are counted separately.
There are only 300,000 people in the city while 1,000,000 live in the county. The county(where I live) separated from the city a few years back for incredibly racist reasons. This was done during White flight outside of STL city. It’s like if someone took Manhattan and a few other wealthy and middle class parts of New York and said it was its own city while Harlem and other poorer and working class neighborhoods were their own city.

If STL was like any other American city, the real population would be 1,300,000. When/if the city and county reunite again, we would drop out of the top 10 for crime states.
Or, people could just simply stop doing crime in both cities and act like they got some damn sense...that way you wouldn't even be in the top 100 or thought about as cities full of crime?
 

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It literally does exactly that. You have the same amount of crime going on in any ghetto in the country but a much lower population is being counted. The same amount of crime per capita with a higher population would quite obviously bring the crime rate down.
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You're making absolutely no sense. How do other high crime cities get their stats?
 

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I’m sorry.
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pay attention closely to the wording, because if they say St. Louis metro area or surrounding areas in the language then they can include or take out whatever number(s) they want to.

see my post in Chicago being the worst city late night for crime...yea that may be true on paper but look at what they’re talking about...outside of certain isolated locations Chicago is one of the safest places on the planet but these media outlets would have you really thinking you’re stepping foot in Iraq...

they know what they’re doing, these clowns arent dumb they’re just clowns...
 

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I'm sure cacs skew the numbers and inflate them just like they do with all the black cities with high black populations. A intermediate sized city, SL's numbers ain't that bad compared to other cities like Memphis or Detroit.
 

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You're making absolutely no sense. How do other high crime cities get their stats?
I’m making complete sense. I’m not saying that other cities are doing things to manipulate their stats. I’m saying STL crime stats are counted unfairly.

St. Louis is a city that historically has been split in half by race and wealth. St. Louis county is every bit apart of St. Louis city culturally and physically but it is counted as a completely different city.

Let’s say their are 8 million people in the Chicago. Let’s say the Southside of Chicago and some of the surrounding areas are their own city and that only counts for 3 million people. Let’s say their are 20,000 violent crimes in that area in one year. Doesn’t 20,000 violent crimes per 3 million people look very different from 20,000 violent crimes per 8 million people?

I don’t know why you can’t comprehend my New York analogy.
 

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I thought that cities and counties were seperated all over the country? :dahell:

So St Louis should be all considered one under the county? I know Baltimore has some county thing going on where its like that. And NYC has their boroughs seperated into counties. But I thought every city and county were seperated.
 

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I’m making complete sense. I’m not saying that other cities are doing things to manipulate their stats. I’m saying STL crime stats are counted unfairly.

St. Louis is a city that historically has been split in half by race and wealth. St. Louis county is every bit apart of St. Louis city culturally and physically but it is counted as a completely different city.

Let’s say their are 8 million people in the Chicago. Let’s say the Southside of Chicago and some of the surrounding areas are their own city and that only counts for 3 million people. Let’s say their are 20,000 violent crimes in that area in one year. Doesn’t 20,000 violent crimes per 3 million people look very different from 20,000 violent crimes per 8 million people?

I don’t know why you can’t comprehend my New York analogy.

Because it has nothing to do with the crime stats. St Louis county is culturally St Louis. I get that, but every city has suburbs at function the same way. That doesn't make St Louis any different.

We had this discussion before.
 
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