What QB is under the most pressure this postseason and why?

[bigde09]

Exactly, lamar has been working under this exact same scenario and there was no excuse for him at all, he was the unanimous mvp with a mediocre receiving core and expected to perform now allen is getting every pass in town, ignore clowns like @Thavoiceofthevoiceless their only role is to make every and any excuse for white qbs its a consistent theme and pattern, check previous posts as well, the media has glazed allen at every turn, changed playoff rules for him, at some point he has to perform or get to the superbowl, enough of the nonsense

Shut your autistic ass up

 

[Stone]

Mahome has multiple rings. He can lose no problem..

Mahomes is straight. He got 3 rings already.

Mahomes chasing GOAT status. He wins this year and he can say he’s the only QB to 3 peat. Plus this’ll be the 4th SB before 30 and it’ll make 6 or 7 SBs more realistic.

Also, if he loses this year and Lamar or Josh wins it all, the gap closes and his aura of invincibility is lost

 

[Axum Ezana]

You think Tomlin gets fired with a loss?

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i heard from people who say steelers owners dont fire coaches. all their coaches were there for along time since chuck noll(and cower).

 

[murksiderock]

Why can he afford to lose? He's 2-4 in the playoffs and has his worst games of the season in the playoffs

If he plays well and loses he'll be fine. He can't suck anymore. He at the stage where we only judge what he does in the playoffs, he's clearly one of the greatest to ever play his position in the regular season...

His career thus far has been Manning in an athletic, swaggy, black man's body he'll be fine if he plays well, regardless of outcome...

Lamar Jackson and it's not close. The people saying Josh Allen are Lamar diickeaters and part of the reason why Lamar has the most pressure.

Hurts is a distant 2nd

Lamar is definitely #1, there's no real argument for anyone there besides him...

But Allen is definitely #2, and there's no real argument for anyone there besides him...

Just consider this for a second, what are the hallmarks of an elite quarterback, besides physical tools? What are the tangible metrics?

They win alot, in all facets. They win championships, they win awards, they win divisions, they win games...

Last year a groundswell started of calling Allen a lock Famer and one of the greatest QBs ever, and that narrative has grown louder this year. The problem with this is, if we're only grading the metrics, here is where he is as we currently stand today, among the guys of his generation:

•tied for 2nd in championship count, with 0;
•t-3rd in SB appearances, with 0;
•t-4th in playoff record, at .500;
•4th in regular season win percentage, at .691;
•2nd in division championships, with 5;
•t-6th in trophies collected, with 0;
•t-4th in Pro Bowl selections, with 3;
•3rd in All-Pro selections, with 2;
•never led The League in any statistical category, t-4th;

We have a guy who everybody wants to tell me is one if the greatest players I've ever seen, but he's not #1 in anything. He's never led The League in anything. On aggregate, if you balance out all these categories, he comes out as, on average, #4 of his generation. Which tracks, given that we know he's not better than Mahomes...

The argument could be made but he's on the lesser side of an argument vs Lamar, who has led The League in multiple categories and has been #1 in multiple categories...

The argument can be made that Burrow is better than him, though I'd say Allen is on the winning side of that argument. Still, Burrow is the better pocket passer, outplayed and beat Allen in their only playoff game, has been to more AFC Championships, has been to a Super Bowl, and has beaten KC...

So if you are on the Burrow side of Allen/Burrow, that puts Allen as the 4th-best QB of his era...

If you think he's higher than the 4th best QB of his era, you're making my central point which is that a guy, this good, allegedly, cannot keep losing to The Dynasty...

Manning got one on The Dynasty in '06...

A guy this great can't keep not winning MVPs, not leading the NFL in any passing category, etc, so he's gotta do something in the playoffs...

I've heard for weeks now that, he's the only guy to beat both #1 seeds, and to be very clear, Allen was PHENOMENAL in both games...

So what will he look like in this second season? He's purportedly one of the greatest players ever, it's time for it to show in the results, not simply the physical gifts, not simply the, "I like him better than the other guy"...

I don't have a single thing to point to, to tell me Allen is the best at anything. He's not really second best at anything either, a SB run would change alot for him, but anything less, especially if he's bad? I don't wanna hear anything else about Allen again...

 

[Bboystyle]

Mahomes chasing GOAT status. He wins this year and he can say he’s the only QB to 3 peat. Plus this’ll be the 4th SB before 30 and it’ll make 6 or 7 SBs more realistic.

Also, if he loses this year and Lamar or Josh wins it all, the gap closes and his aura of invincibility is lost

Gap doesnt close on Mahomes if allen of lamar wins one ring

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Exactly, lamar has been working under this exact same scenario and there was no excuse for him at all, he was the unanimous mvp with a mediocre receiving core and expected to perform now allen is getting every pass in town, ignore clowns like @Thavoiceofthevoiceless their only role is to make every and any excuse for white qbs its a consistent theme and pattern, check previous posts as well, the media has glazed allen at every turn, changed playoff rules for him, at some point he has to perform or get to the superbowl, enough of the nonsense

Two bytch ass posters co-signing each other. It makes sense that you’d two would be along and be on the same page.

 

[Big Boss]

Mahomes chasing GOAT status. He wins this year and he can say he’s the only QB to 3 peat. Plus this’ll be the 4th SB before 30 and it’ll make 6 or 7 SBs more realistic.

Also, if he loses this year and Lamar or Josh wins it all, the gap closes and his aura of invincibility is lost

No they need at least 2 rings

 

[Roger king]

Two bytch ass posters co-signing each other. It makes sense that you’d two would be along and be on the same page.

One of the most pathetic scumbags on this site always making excuses for every white qb. Go suck off other white qbs while the others live in reality. Allen was second best this year and doesn't deserve mvp.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

One of the most pathetic scumbags on this site always making excuses for every white qb. Go suck off other white qbs while the others live in reality. Allen was second best this year and doesn't deserve mvp.

Is that the best insult you can come up with bytch nikka?

 

[murksiderock]

Gap doesnt close on Mahomes if allen of lamar wins one ring

Maybe not for Allen, but Lamar it definitely will. He needs more than one ring to jump over White Man but he's already closed the gap without a ring...

He'll make the gap even slimmer if he wins one...

No they need at least 2 rings

 

[Roger king]

Is that the best insult you can come up with bytch nikka?

I don't care about your opinions clown..you got emotional and mentioned me when I never was in convo with you. We get it allen is the best thing since slice bread. Let the others live in reality and facts.

Moving on I am curious if Allen likely fails to beat mahomes again this playoff time. What will be the next excuse? Which playoff rule will be changed?

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I don't care about your opinions clown..you got emotional and mentioned me when I never was in convo with you. We get it allen is the best thing since slice bread. Let the others live in reality and facts.

Moving on I am curious if Allen likely fails to beat mahomes again this playoff time. What will be the next excuse? Which playoff rule will be changed?

If you look at the poll at the top of the page, the overwhelming majority of pollers think the answer is obviously Lamar. Obviously a lot of people are on the same page.

If/when Lamar wins that third MVP, he will have three more than Allen will, so the narrative Allen should be under more pressure makes no remote sense whatsoever.

At some point, you and others are going to stop having to use whataboutism and bringing up other QBs just to defend Lamar from criticism when he's obviously on a different level than them outside of Mahomes.

 

[Big Boss]

If you look at the poll at the top of the page, the overwhelming majority of pollers think the answer is obviously Lamar. Obviously a lot of people are on the same page.

If/when Lamar wins that third MVP, he will have three more than Allen will, so the narrative Allen should be under more pressure makes no remote sense whatsoever.

At some point, you and others are going to stop having to use whataboutism and bringing up other QBs just to defend Lamar from criticism when he's obviously on a different level than them outside of Mahomes.

He will have 1 more MVP than Mahomes too

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

He will have more 1 MVP than Mahomes too

People keep wanting to prop accolades and success, then juelzing and whataboutism when it comes time to meet those standards of expectations set.

 

[The_Dread_Dormammu]

Sure, but Lamar still put up some of his worst career performances when the lights were brightest. One might even venture that, comparative to skills & potential to influence the game with his performance, he was one of the worst players on the field in a number of those games. Mewling about his WRs etc does not take away from his need to shed the 'Playoff Lamar' tag worse than any of the other QBs due to the fact that he has been pretty awful on a regular basis in the playoffs.

For someone with such confidence in his opinions, it's amazing how few people agree with your takes. This should should be telling you to at least have an open mind to consider your own opinion. When one of the people agreeing with you is Roger fukking King then you should be seeing flashing warning signs in your head. Whilst you don't seem retarded, maybe a little combative, that guy has clearly been starved of oxygen for a significant period at some point.

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And for all the reasons many have said, it’s Lamar.