VegetasHairline
Veteran
Athleticism IS NOT a skill.

Athleticism IS NOT a skill.
The components that make up athleticism are SKILLS; speed, agility, power, strength etc etc.
You're a special type of moron, i'll give you that.
Yawn.
"Yes, your cotinued insistence on representing physical traits as skills is indeed boring.
*walks down the street and sees a really tall person*
"Oh shyt son, you got skillz!!!"

1. There's nothing to back up baseball players being more out of shape. Especially when you have 300 lb. football players, and fat ass quarterbacks. I just watched 6'5", 230-lb. Freddie Freeman hustle out a triple. Meanwhile this guy is dominating football.
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Then you have fat centers and power forwards, point guards like Raymond Felton, etc. Every sport has their out of shape players.
2. Only baseball players juice huh?Not like tons of football players get in trouble for the same thing. Damn, where's Shawn Merriman?
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I ask the question again:
What's the difference between - using force on a ball to make it go a certain direction (bounce pass to avoid defenders) and using force to adjust your body to go a certain direction (bouncing/avoiding defenders in the box = in other words, AGILITY)?
manipulation