What Stopped Bone Thugs Being on the Same Level as Wu Tang was..

[SirBiatch]

Bone Thugs tried to sell a million dollar album, and no one gave a fukk.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

All the dominant publications are based on the east,no?
MEaning the east creates the narrative,no?
If i'm wrong,name a group that only did half as good as wu tang,from somewhere outside the east that gets similar props.

Name an album outside the east that sold as poorly as Illmatic,that gets similar props

Name a producer outside the east that has never produced the lion's share of a classic album or put on a crew of people that gets the same props as pete rock or primo

nobody? Guess, point proven

 

[Wacky D]

@smokeurobinson

nobody said bone was the 1st to harmonize in rap.
and yea, whodini is pretty much their main influence.

but youre comparing 2 different animals. the influence you hear all over the airwaves of today is not that of groups like whodini or fearless four. its bone thug. bone is the group that brought the double-time & staccato flow harmonies to the game. whodini & all them weren't doing any of that.

I'm sure you know this.

Bone stans lied, weren't informed or ignored the fact that Bone Thugs tried to sell a million dollar album, and no one gave a fukk. Y'all are delusional. Conversation is pointless with liars and the uninformed.

End of discussion.

I don't see the point of this. I don't think anyone cares about anybody's million dollar album unless theyre the millionaire purchasing it.

I'm a bone fan and I don't even know what happened with it. I heard about it once and then shrugged it off cuz its none of my business.

the only reason yall dwell on wutang is because the media kept shoving the million dollar album down our throats. same reason why people think wutang is the only global group - because they yap about it all the time.

wutang selling a million dollar album doesn't mean that theyre better or more popular than anybody. it holds no weight. it just means that a weirdo millionaire likes you enough to purchase it. lol. he didn't even get any unreleased prime wu gems. he purchased a new album from a flabby group.

You wouldn't find a single publication on any medium on earth that put bone above wutang as a group. None

But I guess they are all based on the east coast. Even the ones in other countries

all these publications that aren't niche, are based off of east coast purist logic.

thats why these pubs always give high-praise to the boom bap & native tongue influenced acts, regardless of where theyre from.

I realized this 20 years ago when I was in middle school. why are we even still acknowledging these publications' opinions in 2016?

Ok...Fvck the "ON-PAPER" sh!t then. Just judging by MC skills, Wu has at least 4 members that MOST hip hop fans would put above ANY Bone member. Only a delusional Bone stan would say I'm lying. Who do you consider the best Bone member? When have you ever heard or seen that member named in a GOAT rapper debate?

Like I said...Bone stans just like that fast harmonizing sh!t. I've met Bone stans that couldn't recite their verses word for word if their life depended on it.

Wu better by skills and "ON-PAPER".

the bolded is just another example of you guys living in wu-world.

no members from either group are brought up in GOAT rapper debates by anybody that's not a stan. why do you keep trying to push this argument? you look silly. you probably got ghostface in your top 5 or some chit. lol.

and ive met wutang stans that couldn't translate their lyrics if their life depended on it. and theres more of them than the bone stans that cant recite their chit.

How bout this...

Let's check online for GOAT MC conversations/lists.

If you can find more with Bone Thug member mentions than Wu-tang mentions, I'd ask the mods to ban me for a week.

If I find more Wu member mentions than Bone members than you get that week ban.

Bet?

this is some nitwit chit.

you think I care about what a bunch of nerds online have to say about their goat lists?

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

All the dominant publications are based on the east,no?
MEaning the east creates the narrative,no?
If i'm wrong,name a group that only did half as good as wu tang,from somewhere outside the east that gets similar props.

Name an album outside the east that sold as poorly as Illmatic,that gets similar props

Name a producer outside the east that has never produced the lion's share of a classic album or put on a crew of people that gets the same props as pete rock or primo

sales sales sales

magazines do not care about sales breh.... if you buy an album and you like it, why in the world would you care about how many people bought the shyt? would that make you like it more?

notice i said ANY magazine... i said anywhere in the world... and i actually said, mags, blogs, anything you can find... that's germany, china, england, guam.... there's some music mags in the west right? blogs? shyt i'm sure there's some ohio writers out in the world... it's 2016.... find a hip hop group list that puts bone in front of wu


so now illmatic and NO gangstar album were classics? be serious... i'm not even sure how these two got into the convo but you're obviously working for billboard.. nobody considers sales in ANY argument about music QUALITY because they don't matter

that's like saying well britney spears sold 10 milly so she was the greatest singer of the 00s... nah

well now 148 outsold jeezy so they had the hotter album

well kids bop 15 outsold the dogg pound so they had a classic

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

Wu tang is bigger then bone thugs

Period

Bone stans gonna have to get over this


Wu on cartoons ,videos games, shows , comic books, nikkas got they own clothes (that actually sell) etc

Bone just aint have the personality or charisma to be superstars

Their not wu tang or a nwa

Dipset is probably bigger then bone also if you talking street influence(i like dips music more personally)

Bone thugs ate a great rap group that sold some records in their time but thats where it ends

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

@smokeurobinson

nobody said bone was the 1st to harmonize in rap.
and yea, whodini is pretty much their main influence.

but youre comparing 2 different animals. the influence you hear all over the airwaves of today is not that of groups like whodini or fearless four. its bone thug. bone is the group that brought the double-time & staccato flow harmonies to the game. whodini & all them weren't doing any of that.

I'm sure you know this.





I don't see the point of this. I don't think anyone cares about anybody's million dollar album unless theyre the millionaire purchasing it.

I'm a bone fan and I don't even know what happened with it. I heard about it once and then shrugged it off cuz its none of my business.

the only reason yall dwell on wutang is because the media kept shoving the million dollar album down our throats. same reason why people think wutang is the only global group - because they yap about it all the time.

wutang selling a million dollar album doesn't mean that theyre better or more popular than anybody. it holds no weight. it just means that a weirdo millionaire likes you enough to purchase it. lol. he didn't even get any unreleased prime wu gems. he purchased a new album from a flabby group.





all these publications that aren't niche, are based off of east coast purist logic.

thats why these pubs always give high-praise to the boom bap & native tongue influenced acts, regardless of where theyre from.

I realized this 20 years ago when I was in middle school. why are we even still acknowledging these publications' opinions in 2016?





the bolded is just another example of you guys living in wu-world.

no members from either group are brought up in GOAT rapper debates by anybody that's not a stan. why do you keep trying to push this argument? you look silly. you probably got ghostface in your top 5 or some chit. lol.

and ive met wutang stans that couldn't translate their lyrics if their life depended on it. and theres more of them than the bone stans that cant recite their chit.




this is some nitwit chit.

you think I care about what a bunch of nerds online have to say about their goat lists?

Na that's just the classic excuse

Iv been alot of places

Unless you live under a rock

Or live in the state of ohio

You would know wu tang is bigger then bone

Its not even close

 

[Danie84]

Remembers, in the mid-90s BTNH being neck-to-neck with WU, tho

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

Glad to see Whodini name being bought up

Dude finally getting the props he deserved

The props that other people dont deserve

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Since when was it acceptable to compare a group of glorified choir boys to the almighty Wu-Tang Clan?

A lot of retardation in this thread.

 

[Gains]

we all know why Bone was so big


Bizzy



brehetes lusted over that light skin breh

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

sales sales sales

magazines do not care about sales breh.... if you buy an album and you like it, why in the world would you care about how many people bought the shyt? would that make you like it more?

You could say the same about fans liking and album and why would they care what a magazine THINKS,yet you're using mag opinions as a talking point as if it means something.
And i wasnt saying mags care about sales. My point was that the only lackluster sales having albums that get jocked in east coast media being mags,dj's etc are albums from the east or that cater to the east sound boom bap etc.
MEANING THEY ONLY CELEBRATE blockbuster albums from other regions while hoisting up flops from their own region.
EITHER because they're blatantly hating or were brainwashed by the east coast media they grew up on whom created the false narrative that their hometown heroes were bigger than they actually were.
So sales DO MATTER from nikkas outside the east cause if they dont sale enough,east coasters will either not hear them enough via hater dj's or pretend they don't

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

notice i said ANY magazine... i said anywhere in the world... and i actually said, mags, blogs, anything you can find... that's germany, china, england, guam.... there's some music mags in the west right? blogs? shyt i'm sure there's some ohio writers out in the world... it's 2016.... find a hip hop group list that puts bone in front of wu

And i said they all; take their cue from NY,the lead media of america.
Ny has always been the dominant media in America

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

sales sales sales


so now illmatic and NO gangstar album were classics? be serious... i'm not even sure how these two got into the convo but

No illmatic was talked up and meant very little when it droppped and No Gangstarr album ever meant anything. Although i bumped illmatic and some gangstarr. They were not major factors amongst the general public.
Which is why IN 1994
Bone
Outkast
Warren G
Da Brat
and Biggie dropped debut albums which went plat and/or multi plat within a matter of months
while ILLMATIC TOOK SEVEN YEARS TO GO PLATINUM

The fans didnt give a shyt about it on that level

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

nobody considers sales in ANY argument about music QUALITY because they don't matter

that's like saying well britney spears sold 10 milly so she was the greatest singer of the 00s... nah

well now 148 outsold jeezy so they had the hotter album

well kids bop 15 outsold the dogg pound so they had a classic

You know nikkas dont have a good argument when they have to go outside of hiphop to make a point or pop compilations as THEIR ONLY ARGUMENT.
If you really think you got something,give me an example with a black hiphop artists whom made street grimy hiphop like bone and wu.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Glad to see Whodini name being bought up

Dude finally getting the props he deserved

The props that other people dont deserve

"dude"? "he deserve"? nikka Whodini is a trio group,wtf