what were ya thoughts when you first heard ice cubes "cave b**ch?"

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As far as I know you aren't white so that wasn't a jab at you. I meant any white person with any amount of critical thinking abilities could probably assume that Cube wasn't coasting through the Priority offices calling white women cave bytches. And no, I didn't specifically know he worked with Lyor Cohen until later....but he obviously worked with white people in some capacity to get his music released, so I didn't take what he said too seriously.

I was conflicted, yet at the same time I understood that this was hip hop and that saying this or that doesn't mean you push a hard line on it. 24/7 I never for a second took cube for somebody who was really racist, I saw him as someone who was trying to be provocative while saying some shyt that people could identify with.



You 2 are better then me i'll say that....There was this rock group called Type O Negative that I used to like in the 90's...Once rumor had it that they were racist...I stopped fukking with them, didnt care if it were true or not I just deaded them.......I was digging Marlyn Manson and then in early 98 he did that AntiChrist video where he was mimicking a nazi rally and I lost all interest since.


Props on the feedback...I asked specifically because I remember once when I was in the Army smoking weed with some white comrads at my house, I had The W playing and Gravel Pit had gone off and that little skit about Yakub came on and all of a sudden the whole room got tesne...LOL...Even before it came on something told me to get up and turn it off cuz I didnt wanna offend my boys but I was too high and let it ride and when it came everyone got quiet...one kid had this funny look on his face and asked "What is this?" and another kid who was real familiar with Wu was like "Nah..Thats the wu" but it was still a tense moment. Since then I always wanted to know the inner thoughts of white people when it came to rap music with a pro Black extremist perspective.
 

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If they can bombared R Kelly about his past how come white reporters never ask Ice Cube about this song??
 

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Pissing on underage girls who like it and freedom of speech dont fall into the same category.

Stop it..



You didnt answer the question tho.


You said that as if reporters haven't questioned rappers lyrics in the past. Go to youtube and type "Sean Hannity KRS"......you'll see Sean Hannity use KRS lyrics against him in an interview. Didnt Bill O'Reilly use Nas lyrics to justify why Nas shouldnt do a concert at Virginia Tech after that mass shooting???

Why did you respond as if reporters dont use rappers past lyrics against them?






On another note.....Didnt Cube do a song where he was requesting that a mans underage daughter leave the house with him with lines like:

I know she is a minor and it is illegal / but the bytch is worse than Vanessa Del Rio :ohhh:



 
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You didnt answer the question tho.


You said that as if reporters haven't questioned rappers lyrics in the past. Go to youtube and you'll see Sean Hannity use a bunch of KRS lyrics against him in an interview. Didnt Bill O'Reilly use a bunch of Nas lyrics to justify why Nas shouldnt do a concert at Virginia Tech after that mass shooting???

Why did you respond as if reporters dont use rappers past lyrics against them?






On another note.....Didnt Cube do a song where he was requesting that a mans underage daughter leave the house with him with lines like:

I know she is a minor and it is illegal / but the bytch is worse than Vanessa Del Rio :ohhh:


Where you think :umad:came from.

White conservative media will always try and use artists lyrics as a scapegoat, at their convenience. Yet never speak on the songs that are powerful or uplifting.

From alleged 2Pac lyrics inciting people to shoot at the police to Ice T talking about killing Po Po out of frustration from police brutality

Journalist learn to spin context to sway public opinion (which is a common practice) that ALREADY has a opinion about black rappers anyhow.

Yet

It goes back to 2 Live Crew and them winning their lawsuit..

So again.

The 1st Amendment covers everything what you are referring to.

I dont see how you are comparing statutory rape to a rap song denouncing white women..

Cube was young and following the ideology of the NOI where really he got the whole inference from.

Many young black men found Islam around that time or just had the same sentiments about white women.

My 1st sentence should explain everything, if you forget after reading this..

And every time you want to question a artists lyrics..Think 1st Amendment..

Whether you like it or not.

Because the conservative media sure doesn't..
 

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Where you think :umad:came from.

White conservative media will always try and use artists lyrics as a scapegoat, at their convenience. Yet never speak on the songs that are powerful or uplifting.

From alleged 2Pac lyrics inciting people to shoot at the police to Ice T talking about killing Po Po out of frustration from police brutality

Journalist learn to spin context to sway public opinion (which is a common practice) that ALREADY has a opinion about black rappers anyhow.

Yet

It goes back to 2 Live Crew and them winning their lawsuit..

So again.

The 1st Amendment covers everything what you are referring to.

I dont see how you are comparing statutory rape to a rap song denouncing white women..

Cube was young and following the ideology of the NOI where really he got the whole inference from.

Many young black men found Islam around that time or just had the same sentiments about white women.

My 1st sentence should explain everything, if you forget after reading this..

And every time you want to question a artists lyrics..Think 1st Amendment..

Whether you like it or not.

Because the conservative media sure doesn't..

LOL

You still didnt answer the question tho.

You did a nice lil spin around but you never answered the question.

I just gave you 2 examples of white reporters using rappers lyrics against them. Why would you bring up "1st amendment freedom of speech" as if thats why reporters wont ask Cube about that song, when I just pointed out that Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly didnt give a fukk about freedom speech and used rappers lyrics against them anyway???


Its not about comparing 'statutory rape' with 'denouncing white women'..........Bottom line, Sean Hannity had the balls to use KRS lyrics against him.....Bill OReilly used Nas lyrics against him.....That female reporter wanted to talk about R Kellys sexual past.....all 3 instances are of reporters trying to put an artist on blast. Thats where all 3 compare. The question I'm asking is why hasn't a reporter put Ice Cube on blast for these lyrics yet?? And dont repeat that it has to do with freedom of speech, I just proved that Sean Hannity and O'Reilly dont give a fukk about any of that.
 

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You still didnt answer the question tho.

You did a nice lil spin around but you never answered the question.

I just gave you 2 examples of white reporters using rappers lyrics against them. Why would you bring up "1st amendment freedom of speech" as if thats why reporters wont ask Cube about that song, when I just pointed out that Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly didnt give a fukk about freedom speech and used rappers lyrics against them anyway???


Its not about comparing 'statutory rape' with 'denouncing white women'..........Bottom line, Sean Hannity had the balls to use KRS lyrics against him.....Bill OReilly used Nas lyrics against him.....That female reporter wanted to talk about R Kellys sexual past.....all 3 instances are of reporters trying to put an artist on blast. Thats where all 3 compare. The question I'm asking is why hasn't a reporter put Ice Cube on blast for these lyrics yet?? And dont repeat that it has to do with freedom of speech, I just proved that Sean Hannity and O'Reilly dont give a fukk about any of that.
I Did you just wont accept it.

You want to compare R.Kelly's pissing on underage girls to a problack Cube making songs about his dislike of white women.

Stop it.

edit:White conservative media will always try and use artists lyrics as a scapegoat, at their convenience.
 

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You still didnt answer the question tho.

You did a nice lil spin around but you never answered the question.

I just gave you 2 examples of white reporters using rappers lyrics against them. Why would you bring up "1st amendment freedom of speech" as if thats why reporters wont ask Cube about that song, when I just pointed out that Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly didnt give a fukk about freedom speech and used rappers lyrics against them anyway???


Its not about comparing 'statutory rape' with 'denouncing white women'..........Bottom line, Sean Hannity had the balls to use KRS lyrics against him.....Bill OReilly used Nas lyrics against him.....That female reporter wanted to talk about R Kellys sexual past.....all 3 instances are of reporters trying to put an artist on blast. Thats where all 3 compare. The question I'm asking is why hasn't a reporter put Ice Cube on blast for these lyrics yet?? And dont repeat that it has to do with freedom of speech, I just proved that Sean Hannity and O'Reilly dont give a fukk about any of that.

Ice Cube is smarter when it comes to his image than most entertainers.

He probably has a set list of acceptable questions to be asked before he does interviews, and if the interviewer doesn't agree to them he probably doesn't do the show.
 

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I Did you just wont accept it.

You want to compare R.Kelly's pissing on underage girls to a problack Cube making songs about his dislike of white women.

Stop it.



Dude....if u woulda just said "Cube is too big in the game right now....they gonna dodge asking him stuff like that like they dodge asking Woody Allen why did he wife up his step daughter" then I could have gave you the :ehh:
 

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Ice Cube is smarter when it comes to his image than most entertainers.

He probably has a set list of acceptable questions to be asked before he does interviews, and if the interviewer doesn't agree to them he probably doesn't do the show.

:ehh:

Thats a more reasonable answer....Thank you.




and R Kelly has always come off as not being the sharpest knife in the drawer.
 

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I was like right on.

I was very pro black at the time. The whole time period was very pro black to be honest so this song was not as shocking to us as it may be to people now. Cross Colors, HBCU shirts, Malcolm X movie, African pendants were still popping.

I also went to an Atlanta Public School. The school district pushed a black curriculum. We read books like Native Son, Black Boy, Langston Hughes books etc. in lieu or in addition to mainstream classic literature.

It was a very unique time.
 

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Dude....if u woulda just said "Cube is too big in the game right now....they gonna dodge asking him stuff like that like they dodge asking Woody Allen why did he wife up his step daughter" then I could have gave you the :ehh:
Thats not the case.

Cube was on his pro black steez..like a lot of youth.

He doesnt have a past of statutory rape unlike R.Kelly

Its BEEN known R. Kelly been fukking with underage girls in Chicago..he got
acquitted..the damage is done but people still support him...he was a bigger ARTIST that cube.

Woody is a different echelon, quit being rhetorical..some these you know the answers to already.

...and how many blacks care about Woody Allen?

You wanna go back and forth on who Hollywood and the media choose to endorse/chastise ..thats fine..have fun.
 

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Ice Cube is smarter when it comes to his image than most entertainers.

He probably has a set list of acceptable questions to be asked before he does interviews, and if the interviewer doesn't agree to them he probably doesn't do the show.
You would think, this is Hollywood 101.

Nobody promoting R.Kelly cuz he used to piss on underage girls..Op dont get that.
 

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Thats not the case.

Cube was on his pro black steez..like a lot of youth.

He doesnt have a past of statutory rape unlike R.Kelly

Its BEEN known R. Kelly been fukking with underage girls in Chicago..he got
acquitted..the damage is done but people still support him...he was a bigger ARTIST that cube.

Woody is a different echelon, quit being rhetorical..some these you know the answers to already.

...and how many blacks care about Woody Allen?

You wanna go back and forth on who Hollywood and the media choose to endorse/chastise ..thats fine..have fun.


:snoop:...OK......I'm gonna have to use the 44th Law from the 48th Law Of Power on you


KRS was on his pro Black steez....Like a Lot Of youth


Its BEEN known R. Kelly been fukking with underage girls in Chicago..he got

acquitted..the damage is done but people still support him...he was a bigger ARTIST then KRS



and Sean Hannity still used KRS' lyrics against him yet they dont use Ice Cubes lyrics against him.

 
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