what would a top 5 list in 1994 look like?

[JYoung24]

I don't recall rakim even still being in the game at this point.
ice cube was at his peak of success, but he lost a few steps quality-wise.
LL was beginning to be dismissed as old school.
kane was way pass old school. he looked like somebody's young grandpop out there rapping.
grand puba?? we in '94. not in '90-92.

I guess this is an east coast-centric list
cuz snoop passed up cube
and by the end of the year, da brat passed up lyte & latifah

Its wild cuz kane and ll were only like 25 or 26 in 94

 

[JYoung24]

And Lisa was doing infinitely better nationwide.

Why yall act like only suburban whites and bougie black women listened to them

She wasnt a fulltime rapper though and was she considered a goat in 1994?

 

[JYoung24]

How yall know mc lyte didnt write her stuff?

 

[JYoung24]

I cant believe what Im reading breh. We might as well start debating why no one said Michael Bivins and Ronnie Devoe too

 

[JYoung24]

NaS
Biggie
Redman
Method Man
Snoop

All of them were too new

 

[JYoung24]

So what did nas do that put him over
Tupac.
Tupac dropped two classic singles the year prior.
Had two albums out,one of which that sold quicker than nasir's illmatic.
Also had some features leading into and during 1994
And he dropped thug life in 1994.

Pac or nas shouldnt be on the list and those are my two favorite rappers

 

[smokeurobinson]

This is way different. Snoop was bigger than everyone named. He had videos and performances, guest spots, and his own album to where he was in those discussions. I'm not looking at this with a 2018 lens. This is '94 and Snoop had two years of momentum of not just some huge Hip Hop moments, but nobody sounded like him.

so basically your top 5 in 94 would have Snoop.


U didnt think everyones top 5 in 94 would be the same did u?

 

[Jinx`]

She wasnt a fulltime rapper though and was she considered a goat in 1994?

Probably not, but Lyte wouldn't be no one's top 5 either

Lisa literally said herself that she didn't know whether to call herself a singer or a rapper.. Some days she felt like one or the other

And still, more hip hop fans recognised her worldwide than MC Lyte. TLC was a hip hop group, and Lisa was the center rapping figure..

Forget the ghostwriting for a sec..

Like it or not, if you did a nationwide hip hop poll back then, Lyte would not compare because she wasn't mainstream like that. Hate on Lisa for that if you want, I doubt she'll lose any sleep over it

 

[smokeurobinson]

you mean like how youre pretending that dudes cared about the "wanna be down remix"???

most dudes could care less about female rap period.

and it aint no fantasy. anybody that's ever heard the panther song can clearly see that left eye destroyed everybody on that cut.



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LOL @ your first sentence saying most dudes could care less about female rap and then in the next sentence u going extra to defend a female rapper speaking on some 95 shyt when we talking 94.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Pac or nas shouldnt be on the list and those are my two favorite rappers

Nas definitely shouldn't.
Pac makes a decent argument.
But HE DEFINITELY was more worthy than nas.

 

[JYoung24]

Nas definitely shouldn't.
Pac makes a decent argument.
But HE DEFINITELY was more worthy than nas.

True he was like 3 albums deep

 

[Jinx`]

LOL @ your first sentence saying most dudes could care less about female rap and then in the next sentence u going extra to defend a female rapper speaking on some 95 shyt when we talking 94.

You mad foolish breh.

Because he stated a simple fact: Lisa was just better than them.

All of them.

It was a foregone conclusion, I dunno how yall cats coulda heard her verses from TLC Tip and NOT thought she was on another level compared to these females rappers. I don't care if she was "part time" or not.

Talent is talent.

I guess yall needed to hear her right next to them a year later before it finally slapped yall in the face.




GOTDAMMM!!! How yall let a SINGER fukk yall up THAT bad?!!

Yall wanna call her a "part time" rapper not realizing that makes yall look that much worse. She set the standard wayyyy too high.

Literally everything about this verse shyts all over the rest of the song. If she went 1st, it'd basically be a Wu Tang Triumph situation

Then Lyte's lil 2 sec verse hit right after lol..


She came lyte alright.. Hey, you already forgot breh? I saw you in the stands in 95

 

[smokeurobinson]

Blah Blah Blah

in post #117 didnt you u say u dont care anymore?


Dude....U just did a rant speaking on a song that came out in 95 and we talking 94. I dont believe you were around. Nothing u say will convince me otherwise. I dont take anything u are saying serious.

 

[Jinx`]

in post #117 didnt you u say u dont care anymore?


Dude....U just did a rant speaking on a song that came out in 95 and we talking 94. I dont believe you were around. Nothing u say will convince me otherwise. I dont take anything u are saying serious.

Nah you're right. I didn't, then yall pulled that "government name" shyt, now I don't give a fukk

Can't you read breh? Reread what I said again.. Carefully this time, then get back to me.. You misunderstood the fukk outta my post, probably when you clicked the video off top and went









For real though, I wish we still had that kinda brotherly/sisterly music.. And that kinda MTV. Majority just don't care anymore

 

[Wacky D]

Its wild cuz kane and ll were only like 25 or 26 in 94

nowadays, a 30-year old is considered a young rapper. just goes to show how dumbed-down everything is now.

and yea, its crazy looking back. run dmc were still in their 20s as well at this point, and they were the epitomy of an old school group still kickin.

kane was looking & even dressing like one of my assistant coaches around that time.......and that dude had grandkids.

Stop making excuses you silly ass nikka. Was tupac's albums the running the game,naw.

THATS THE WHOLE POINT, DIKKHEAD.

yousa dippy ass bamma.

I asked this clown what Nas did that was new and he has no answer cause he's just reading a script that isnt backed by any real knowledge or game.

Aside from east coast media TELLING you illmatic was a big deal,what evidence do you have that nas set some type of standard? YOU DONT HAVE ONE

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What was new about his style,nothing
not the vocals,rhyme schemes,creativity ,nothing.

It's all a myth,you'd know that if you wansnt reading off a script and actually knew your history.
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apparently, youre the one that lived thru media. not me,
I never cared what a magazine said. not to mention, I didn't even know illmatic got 5 mics until later on.

I knew what illmatic meant in real-time because I experienced the chit. the disconnect stems from the fact that you live in bumblef*ck iowa.

you up here worried about somebody's age, but youre the one in here trying to pass 2pac off as a top 5 rapper in '94.
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You can't write off Pac as a singles artist and then big up Illmatic in 1994. If Pac was a singles artist, what does that make Nas.

Yes, Pac was an actor, but those movies weren't what had Dan Quayle shook. It was the music. Thug Life became a mantra. Pac had albums that made an impact. Nobody's saying that they were mega successes, but to say Illmatic was more important in 1994 is a lie. That album didn't impact until later.

With Pac, it wasn't just the backlash, it was songs like "Brenda's Got A Baby" and "Keep Ya Head Up". Songs that were more than just singles. In 1994, a singles artist is someone like Domino.

by singles artists, I'm saying he had yet to drop a noteworthy album.

I'm not saying that hes only good for hits and no album cuts, or anything like that.

illmatic was indeed a big deal when it dropped. it just wasn't a commercial affair.

domino's album is kinda like a classic. way better than any 2pac album at that point. he was more of a rap-singer tho, and was before his time.