I wish people knew this. Right now teams are averaging 19.9 fouls per game. Let's use 85 for comparison, teams averaged 25.2 fouls per game that year. Teams averaged 30.3 FTA per game in 85, in 2018 they average 21.8. Facts do always get in the way of narratives.There are less fouls called today than there were in the 80s. Even when you adjust for pace, it's still quite a bit lower. Free throw rate has been at historic lows in the current era.
It was those first few seasons after they got rid of hand checking where the fouls were out of control. Refs were still adjusting.
I wish people knew this. Right now teams are averaging 19.9 fouls per game. Let's use 85 for comparison, teams averaged 25.2 fouls per game that year. Teams averaged 30.3 FTA per game in 85, in 2018 they average 21.8. Facts do always get in the way of narratives.
Teams attack the rim just as much. They just don't stop and shoot as many mid range shots. Basically, replace the mid range shots taken in the 80s with the 3 pointers of today, and it's practically the same shots to the rim. The game today is layups/dunks and 3's, so they definitely go to the rim as often.when your shooting 40 3s a game you shouldn't shoot many free throws. more 3's equals less rim attacks which equals less fouls.
22 12 and 8 is about what Magic would be getting at his best I believe
I love the coli breh. Only place you can get great basketball discussion but also see how stupid some people areBreh's really in here saying Magic Johnson is an inferior Ben Simmons.
Teams attack the rim just as much. They just don't stop and shoot as many mid range shots. Basically, replace the mid range shots taken in the 80s with the 3 pointers of today, and it's practically the same shots to the rim. The game today is layups/dunks and 3's, so they definitely go to the rim as often.
Bird is definitely not overrated you sound crazy. Neither is magic. Both are the 3rd and 4th greatest players to play respectively.


Man stfu you stay saying dumb shyt top 4 gtfo nikka. You watched a couple of your dads VHS tapes and looked up some numbers and think you know what your talking about when you don’t know shytMan stfu you stay saying dumb shyt top 4 gtfo nikka. You watched a couple of your dads VHS tapes and looked up some numbers and think you know what your talking about when you don’t know shyt
He’s the most overrated “pantheon”, “Mt. Rushmore” player.
I have Bird over Magic. In his era Bird was a far better shooter he was a better halfcourt scorer, he was as good in the post as Magic, he was damn near as good a passer as Magic and would have put up 10+ assists per game in that era if allowed to run the point.You sound crazy as hell Bird and Kobe are both way more overrated just off the top of my head, unless you don’t consider them to be part of that “pantheon”. I would include Wilt too.
It doesn't matter how old I am, most of you nikkas aren't old enough y'all damn selves to be cognitive when Magic was in his prime, this was damn near 30 years ago.How old are some of you posters?![]()
There were questions of whether Ben Simmons would play PG in the NBA. NBA teams are weary of players that tall having the lateral quickness to defend PG's at the next level, also players that tall have a higher dribble which could lead to TO's. It's why Giannis doesn't play PG.Some things in this thread don't make sense to me
One one side, some of yall are having Magic averaging better numbers than he ever did despite pacing being lower than the 80s
On the other side, some of yall are talkin about him being a Point Forward and not a PG today despite Ben Simmons being a PG?![]()