What year did R&B fall off ?

[010101]

when it became the majority of popular r&b acts can't sing

when the song writing went to shyte

when they started trying to blend in hip-hop/rap vibes on every track

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[Screwface Exchange]

It died when rappers started singing more and pushed out the rnb acts from da rnb charts.

Aka ja rule era

 

[ThiefyPoo]

Most of Today’s R&B is either trap or indie pop sonically.

There also isn’t soul or good melodies within the music like before.

Man you gotta dig !!!

Daniel ceaser is great !!!

Love Sabrina Claudio she had one of my fav albums last year .

 

[brownsugah]

Man you gotta dig !!!

Daniel ceaser is great !!!

Love Sabrina Claudio she had one of my fav albums last year .

Daniel Caesar’s Freudian was one of the better R&B releases of last year. Sabrina Claudio has a nice voice and I like some of her songs. I have to say H.E.R. is my absolute favorite out there atm. She’s soulful, I love her melodies, and she’s a dope multi-instrumentalist.

There are a few newer artists I enjoy but I still miss the vibes and certain elements within the R&B of yesteryear.

 

[ThiefyPoo]

Daniel Caesar’s Freudian was one of the better R&B releases of last year. Sabrina Claudio has a nice voice and I like some of her songs. I have to say H.E.R. is my absolute favorite out there atm. She’s soulful, I love her melodies, and she’s a dope multi-instrumentalist.

There are a few newer artists I enjoy but I still miss the vibes and certain elements within the R&B of yesteryear.

You are absolutely right about soul music .

It's so hard to find really good soul music .

Put me on please .

I like music that touches me the most man even if it's not my personal battle .

I love H.E.R I wore out those EP's.

 

[brownsugah]

You are absolutely right about soul music .

It's so hard to find really good soul music .

Put me on please .

I like music that touches me the most man even if it's not my personal battle .

I love H.E.R I wore out those EP's.

I feel you completely. It’s very hard finding good soulful music out there today.

Do you check this thread out on the regular?
Essential - Official thread for current/modern R&B based music that's not being heard by the masses/top 40 radio

There’s dope music being posted in there... it’s basically in the same realm of the artists we know about plus stuff that’s kinda not as known.

There are few artists out there that aren’t as known making dope soul music.. like KING, Emily King, Jordan Rakei, Nick Hakim, Chantae Cann, PJ Morton, Phony Ppl, Haitus Kaiyote, Curtis Harding, Jesse Boykins III, etc... I’m sure you know about them.

 

[ThiefyPoo]

I feel you completely. It’s very hard finding good soulful music out there today.

Do you check this thread out on the regular?
Essential - Official thread for current/modern R&B based music that's not being heard by the masses/top 40 radio

There’s dope music being posted in there... it’s basically in the same realm of the artists we know about plus stuff that’s kinda not as known.

There are few artists out there that aren’t as known making dope soul music.. like KING, Emily King, Jordan Rakei, Nick Hakim, Chantae Cann, PJ Morton, Phony Ppl, Haitus Kaiyote, Curtis Harding, Jesse Boykins III, etc... I’m sure you know about them.

I've been in that thread but my phone stay crashing cause of all the videos .

Still not updating .

I know some of those names but I'll check the ones I don't know .

 

[brownsugah]

I've been in that thread but my phone stay crashing cause of all the videos .

Still not updating .

I know some of those names but I'll check the ones I don't know .

lol! I had that same problem in another thread on here. It really sucks.

 

[Stick Up Kid]

it died when that cac culture vulture justin timberlake went solo

He went solo in 2003

In 2004 Confessions dropped

 

[Ben Ovabich]

When R Kelly became the R&B Thug around 2000-2001... Everybody copied his style...

 

[DarkmanX]

IMO the 2000s. Either in the early or the mid.

R&B isnt even R&B anymore. Listen to the records out, its just rap records. The singers even
sounds like the rappers now.

After rap had took over the mainstream in the early 00's r&b had to latch on to get put on. Kinda like how
it was for Rap songs in the 80s-90s (if they wanted air-/videoplay).

 

[satam55]

Like the thread title says when did R&b music pretty much fall off? Sure there are some R&b singers who are doing okay but the genre is no near as popular as it was when I was a kid in the 90's or even the 2000's. Was it around the time Chris Brown assualted Rihanna or was it when Usher and other R&b singers started doing dance pop type records. Or was it when artist's like Chris Brown decided they would rather Rap then sing?

It started to fall off in the late 2000's. That's when I noticed that R&B songs that were Top 10 hits on the Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart were doing underwhelming on the Billboard Hot 100 charts. That means big R&B hits were falling to crossover into Pop hits.

A big reason for this is Urban music had taken a backseat to EDM on Pop/Top 40 Mainstream radio. This is why so many black R&B/Pop artists were chasing EDM hits in the early 2010's.



@Wear My Dawg's Hat or @CharlieManson Was it 1 of y'all who used to talk about this all the time?

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

It started to fall off in the late 2000's. That's when I noticed that R&B songs that were Top 10 hits on the Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart were doing underwhelming on the Billboard Hot 100 charts. That means big R&B hits were falling to crossover into Pop hits.

A big reason for this is Urban music had taken a backseat to EDM on Pop/Top 40 Mainstream radio. This is why so many black R&B/Pop artists were chasing EDM hits in the early 2010's.



@Wear My Dawg's Hat or @CharlieManson Was it 1 of y'all who used to talk about this all the time?

@satam55 I make the point that the decline of r&b actually begins in the late 80s to early 90s, as rap emerged as the preferred, better-selling form of popular black music

The 1960s and the 1970s are the prime decades for soul/r&b: Motown, Stax, Philadelphia International, SOLAR, Soul Train.

Nelson George wrote the book, "The Death of Rhythm and Blues" in 1988.

By the 1990s/2000s, most of the successful r&b that remained was basically a fusion of r&b and rap: TLC, Brandy, R Kelly, Usher, BBD, Destiny's Child, etc.

The classic soulful sounds that we heard from the Four Tops, Fats Domino, The Supremes, Aretha, James Brown, Maze, Bill Withers, Anita Baker Barry White, Roberta Flack and Luther were largely gone by 1990.

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

It died when rappers started singing more and pushed out the rnb acts from da rnb charts.

Aka ja rule era

Ja Rule really isn't that bad. I think he had a great rapping voice.
Although his singing could get be very tiring.

 

[satam55]

It started to fall off in the late 2000's. That's when I noticed that R&B songs that were Top 10 hits on the Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart were doing underwhelming on the Billboard Hot 100 charts. That means big R&B hits were falling to crossover into Pop hits.

A big reason for this is Urban music had taken a backseat to EDM on Pop/Top 40 Mainstream radio. This is why so many black R&B/Pop artists were chasing EDM hits in the early 2010's.



@Wear My Dawg's Hat or @CharlieManson Was it 1 of y'all who used to talk about this all the time?

@satam55 I make the point that the decline of r&b actually begins in the late 80s to early 90s, as rap emerged as the preferred, better-selling form of popular black music

The 1960s and the 1970s are the prime decades for soul/r&b: Motown, Stax, Philadelphia International, SOLAR, Soul Train.

Nelson George wrote the book, "The Death of Rhythm and Blues" in 1988.

By the 1990s/2000s, most of the successful r&b that remained was basically a fusion of r&b and rap: TLC, Brandy, R Kelly, Usher, BBD, Destiny's Child, etc.

The classic soulful sounds that we heard from the Four Tops, Fats Domino, The Supremes, Aretha, James Brown, Maze, Bill Withers, Anita Baker Barry White, Roberta Flack and Luther were largely gone by 1990.

I think folks in this thread are specifically talking about Contemporary R&B (Because that's what most of us grew up on) and NOT traditional Rhythm and blues/Soul/Funk.