Whatever happened to recruiting athletes from the hood?

[Yogi]

Yep.

Used to be in Dallas that you could recruit Madison, Lincoln, Skyline and Carter high schools and pull a gang of athletes in South Dallas/PG/Oak Cliff etc.

Now, the children of that generation live in the nice southern burbs with other middle class blacks....DeSoto, Cedar Hill, Duncanville etc. All the hood talent from the 80s and 90s is black suburban talent now. The hood schools are underpopulated because blacks have moved away. Hood schools with lots of kids are mostly Mexican now. Playoffs in soccer and baseball in Texas but trash at football, track and basketball.

There still a lot of elite football talent in the city schools in South Florida. Of course the elite private schools like St. Thomas and American Heritage recruit a lot of the top talent, but there are still a lot of four and five star recruits coming out of Northwestern, Central, Booker T, and a few others.

 

[daboywonder2002]

So, is this about being born in the hood or just graduating from a school in the hood? Just because you went to a prep school, that doesn't change where you're from.

About kids who go to the neighborhood public school in the hood or the city.

 

[the kid]

Brandon Ingram did all four years of high school at Kinston High.

A lot of talent from NC stay local all thru high school. We have a great high school basketball atmosphere so while some do leave for prep schools, a lot stay with their hometown squad.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Football had the hood element longer than hoops but even that is going away.

 

[CHICAGO]

Draymond and D-Rose were from the hood and went to Saginaw Hill and Simeon which have produced many notable professional athletes.

but the era of someone going to a random hood HS and coming out a 5* is over with and has been for decades. Arthur Hill and Simeon are destinations for local talent compared to your average HS in the hood

there are some others that are more unknowns in HS like Chris Douglas Roberts. Went to Public Schools (Cass Tech is like Simeon and Arthur Hill tho with multiple pros)

NAH....

SIMEON HADNT BEEN
RELEVANT SINCE THE 80S.

WHITNEY YOUNG
WAS THE PUBLIC SCHOOL
ALL THE LOCAL TALENT WENT TO.

SIMEON BECAME A DESTINATION
FOR LOCAL TALENT AFTER ROSE
PUT THEM BACK ON THE MAP.

IT WAS JUST A REGULAR HOOD SCHOOL
BEFORE THAT.

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[Pirius Black]

Kinston stand up

Stackhouse transferred to Oak Hill his Jr or Sr year I believe. Reggie Bullock also did all four years at Kinston High as well. End of the 2000s saw some nasty K high basketball squads.

 

[El Bombi]

Yep.

Used to be in Dallas that you could recruit Madison, Lincoln, Skyline and Carter high schools and pull a gang of athletes in South Dallas/PG/Oak Cliff etc.

Now, the children of that generation live in the nice southern burbs with other middle class blacks....DeSoto, Cedar Hill, Duncanville etc. All the hood talent from the 80s and 90s is black suburban talent now. The hood schools are underpopulated because blacks have moved away. Hood schools with lots of kids are mostly Mexican now. Playoffs in soccer and baseball in Texas but trash at football, track and basketball.

They are moving heavily in these two cities.

Blacks move out of a house and Mexicans are moving in record pace.

Black people are now moving to Denton, Collin, and Northern Tarrant County.

 

[ISO]

Brandon Ingram did all four years of high school at Kinston High.

It’s also a small town and Jerry Stackhouse puts in a lot of work with the youngings there

Reggie Bullock is from there. Shocking amount of talent in all sectors for such a small population.

 

[3rdLetter]

Even where I went to HS on Long Island, which wasn't the hood but has a high black population, any player that was any good got plucked by the private schools like St Mary's, Chaminade, and LI Lutheran.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

They are moving heavily in these two cities.

Blacks move out of a house and Mexicans are moving in record pace.

Black people are now moving to Denton, Collin, and Northern Tarrant County.

Good point and we see how Allen became a powerhouse. Pluck enough middle class and upper middle class black kids and voila. Just enough brehs at the key positions.

Frisco schools get some more young brehs and they'll do it too.

 

[NormanConnors]

Athletes don't even go to hood schools like that no more. Nowadays you got schools from the suburbs taking the talent out of the hoods/ghettos and bringing them to their schools. I know it happens a lot in Texas

Georgia too

 

[get these nets]

The "'hood" generally doesn't nurture talent ...the "neighborhood" does.

The periods when black city neighborhoods produced wonderful talent, largely occurred prior to the Crack Era (roughly pre-1990).

The Crack Era transforms black city neighborhoods into so-called "'hoods," where random violence and danger made "I Got Next" pickup games mostly obsolete.

You can drive around NYC/NJ today and see outdoor courts where crowds of games gathered 40 years ago, now almost empty, with maybe a handful of kids shooting baskets, and Latinos kicking the soccer ball around under hoops.

AAU has converted black bball into a system of elites: suburban black kids trained by their parents who themselves played college or pro ball; rare urban athletic marvels with size/speed; and kids imported from West Africa with size/speed who can pick up the game quickly (see the Paterson Eastside recruiting mess - Paterson Eastside recruiting scandal brought changes during past year -Paterson NJ Eastside recruiting scandal brought changes in past year).

In NJ, the Newarks, East Oranges and Irvingtons have mostly given way to the elite players from the suburbs like Karl Anthony Towns, Kyrie Irving, Kyle Anderson, Jahvon Quinerly, Ron Harper, Jr, Bryce Aiken.

The New York point guard archetype existed during the heights of the heroin era, and the crack era....despite the chaos that was happening.

It's the spread of west coast gangs that signalled the end of packed courts and all day runs.

From the time you pointed out until the full spread of the gangs out here, several area players made the league from the roughest sections
Steph ,Julius Hodge , Jamal Tinsley , Sebastian Telfair,Lance Stephens are names that pop up...Their games honed in runs in parks and playgrounds......sure that new york still produces plenty of d-1 recruits too.
The guy who was Lebron's high school rival was from a rough part of the city. With better guidance, he could have played a few years of D1 and maybe made the league.
The gang shyt ruined everything, but especially outdoor activities and traveling to different areas to play other talent.

Suburban players have produced more ballers by default, because those special talented guys in the hood aren't playing.

 

[MikelArteta]

its like soccer over in europe you're discovered at a young age

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

There still a lot of elite football talent in the city schools in South Florida. Of course the elite private schools like St. Thomas and American Heritage recruit a lot of the top talent, but there are still a lot of four and five star recruits coming out of Northwestern, Central, Booker T, and a few others.

I was going to say, it seems like South Florida has kept the athletes in city better than others.

Do the private schools recruit hard in the urban areas of So. Fla?

Our private schools take a backseat to suburban public schools but in other places, the private schools eat off big time talent.

 

[Noriega]

NAH....

SIMEON HADNT BEEN
RELEVANT SINCE THE 80S.

WHITNEY YOUNG
WAS THE PUBLIC SCHOOL
ALL THE LOCAL TALENT WENT TO.

SIMEON BECAME A DESTINATION
FOR LOCAL TALENT AFTER ROSE
PUT THEM BACK ON THE MAP.

IT WAS JUST A REGULAR HOOD SCHOOL
BEFORE THAT.

​

Lot of these hoopers at Whitney young, Simeon, Curie, Bogan not even city kids. It was a couple dudes I went to elementary & junior high with in the south burbs that went to hoop in CPS cuz they’d get more shine. This was, of course, before AAU got real hot. @Offthegrid