Whatever happened to the Zion is just Julius Randle with hops crew

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@Kal El, you have been selected

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That wasn't a diss :hubie:
 

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Care to point out exactly what I was wrong about from those posts you quoted?

- "Nowhere did I state or insinuate he's going to be garbage, I just he's not going to be able to play the 4 full-time at his current height, and his success in the league is going to be based on him developing his perimeter game."

- "But that's the entire point, he can't be a smaller 6'7" Shaq, because Shaq was Shaq because he towered/powered over everyone. Zion isn't going to be able to do that in the league."

- "He'd be able to get away playing at the 4 if he projected to be a dominant defensive player (like Draymond can), but quite clearly he isn't."

- "I mean, he's generally more skilled/athletic than him, but the Julius Randle comparisons have been layered over and over for a reason. He plays exactly like him (well, exactly like Julius thinks he plays). At his height, I'm not sure if that's going to translate over to the league."

Here I am acknowledging that he's definitively more skilled and athletic than Julius, but what I'm saying is, they stylistically play the same - except, obviously, Zion does everything better than he does. Care to explain how that is wrong? We've just seen Zion's activity in the preseason and it's all come from inside the paint, similar to how Julius operates on the floor.

All those quotes you upped are based entirely on what I perceived to be his ceiling. My mans, please take them in the appropriate context - don't take them out of it for some cheap daps. I ain't the one. I've been saying the same damn thing all the way through.
Swag literally gave you the best answer. With his size, agility, explosiveness and strength, it's too much force.

While Shaq was able to use his backside to get defenders out of the way, Zion just uses his elite first step and explosiveness with his body control to pretty much accomplish the same. Swag was actually on point in this thread. It's not like his Tennessee or Josh Dobbs thread. More so like his Shaquon Barkley one
 
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There isnt a single stat to support your analysis. Not one. No player that averages 21-8-3 with elite efficiency is a bad player. You're wrong. Get over it.
Again, you have absolutely no comprehension of how to analyze and value players, which is why you live through the box score. On top of that, you didn't even watch Julius play regularly last season, so you have absolutely no authority to say shyt.

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How's Jabari Parker doing :mjlol:
Still better than Julius.

Like your mans @Dwight Howard, you're another muh'fukka that doesn't know what he's talking about. I've yet to see you have an original opinion about anything. You're one of those Indian lowborns who tries to blend in by echoing whatever the fukks around you, because you're scared that you might expose yourself if you're forced to come up with something that's actually from your rockbrain.
 

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Again, you have absolutely no comprehension of how to analyze and value players, which is why you live through the box score. On top of that, you didn't even watch Julius play regularly last season, so you have absolutely no authority to say shyt.

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Talk to someone who gives a damn.
 
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This dude gil is in a battle all by himself
"Eat up whatever rapper but I'm tangled in my cord
Bored, kind of like a knight with the sword
Without dragon to battle so I'm running from a shadow
An impossible feat and I repeat
An impossible feat and I repeat
An impossible feat and I repeat!"
 
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@#1 pick come on down

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All that wear and tear at his weight will catch up to him eventually if he doesn't cut down. It will be inevitable.
For starters, he's NOT going to last long in the league if he stays at 285lbs (I highly doubt his trainers/prep team will let him enter his rookie season at that weight), so he's not going to have that same size advantage at the next level, like he does now. Second of all, his strength/athleticism won't mean shyt if he doesn't have the height/wingspan to finish over longer, smarter and experienced defenders. Tweeners with strength/athleticism as their main attributes have limited ceilings in the league. His success will be predicated on him developing an outside game, because he's not going to dominate at the NBA level with his current style of play.
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