Whats real hip hop?

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Right right I'm going to give you an example; When Waka Flocka came out it was a lot of fans on messages boards calling him trash, but I been to a few of his shows and his shows are hype. So that's just his way of expressing hisself. To me as long as its creative and different than it gets a pass.

The thing with Waka is that he really wasn't anything new at the time. I'll give you a better example, Lil Jon & The Eastside Boy, when crunk music first started popping off. There wasn't any real issues that people had with it at that current time, because it was new and it did get parties hype. If it didn't explode into a nationwide formula for making club records no one today would have anything to say about it. How about T-Pain and autotune, when T-Pain first came on to the scene his style was different. It wasn't until everyone started using autotune that it got a bad rep.
 

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The thing with Waka is that he really wasn't anything new at the time. I'll give you a better example, Lil Jon & The Eastside Boy, when crunk music first started popping off. There wasn't any real issues that people had with it at that current time, because it was new and it did get parties hype. If it didn't explode into a nationwide formula for making club records no one today would have anything to say about it. How about T-Pain and autotune, when T-Pain first came on to the scene his style was different. It wasn't until everyone started using autotune that it got a bad rep.
So when it gets popular than it becomes stale? So its pretty much disposable?
 

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There's many types of Hip Hop, I liked some of Nelly's shyt and fukk with KRS heavy. Just needs to be balance. Good to see they united actually after that little battle.
 

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So why do people have a problem with party records? Party records always been here. Yet when the south starting running shyt it was.. "Oh that aint real hip hop"..

I can't speak for others but I have no problem with that, when done well. It's about if there good party records, but it shouldn't just be that either, it's good to have diversity.
 

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But I fukked with all Pac's party records, Pac was a great artist to me cause he offered pretty much everything.
 

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A lot of people use the term "real hip hop" and a lot of the time its purist douche bags that use it.

To me real hip hop, like all other real music, is stuff that comes from the heart, music where the artist puts his soul into it. Not dumb down, stupid shyt, made to make money and used as a marketing tool by big corporations for the masses.

That's how I see it.
 

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So when it gets popular than it becomes stale? So its pretty much disposable?

when it gets oversaturated is a better way to put it. If any artist puts autotune in their song right now at this current time it'll be laughed at. That's not saying that it will never be able to be used again, it just needs time to be used in a creative way again.
 

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A lot of people use the term "real hip hop" and a lot of the time its purist douche bags that use it.

To me real hip hop, like all other real music, is stuff that comes from the heart, music where the artist puts his soul into it. Not dumb down, stupid shyt, made to make money and used as a marketing tool by big corporations for the masses.

That's how I see it.

But how do you know? Some artist put more stock into production and hooks than lyrics does that make their craft less hip hop?
 

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music made to unite people, have fun, and spread positive messages. Then it changed to spitting about the black experience, then it turned into hey kids if you can rhyme words over tight beats you can make money

Negativity ruined it. Cats think that rapping about drug dealing, swag, smoking drugs, and murder is one of the four original elements of Hip Hop :dead:
 

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But how do you know? Some artist put more stock into production and hooks than lyrics does that make their craft less hip hop?

Yeah, that's hip hop too. Specially when people are making party and club records that are not very lyrical, that's their vibe, that's what they wanna do. The minute u deliberately dumb down ur music or use your music to get advertisement sponsorships from corporations or whoever, ur not making real music any more. Whatever it is.
 

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Yeah, that's hip hop too. Specially when people are making party and club records that are not very lyrical, that's their vibe, that's what they wanna do. The minute u deliberately dumb down ur music or use your music to get advertisement sponsorships from corporations or whoever, ur not making real music any more. Whatever it is.
but but but so called real mcs have advertisements and sponsorships as well.
 
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