What’s Real? metaphysical solipsism asserts that nothing exists externally to this one mind

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Metaphysics is a young man's game. It all leads to nihilism. That happened to me, and I was heavy into metaphysics and existentialism. The only thing that you can definitively prove is that something exists. That something could be a dream, a hallucination, anything. You know that something exists because you are reading this post right now.

Then you can go the next step and realize that nothing can't create something. So if something is here, which we already proved, there was never a time with nothing existed. Something has always been here. There was no start or beginning. Then you can take it a further step and realize that if there is no beginning, there is no over-arching time. If there is no time, then things that require time can't exist. That means that nothing can change or evolve.

Everything that could possibly happen is happening right at this moment. Everything. I call that absolute infinity. Since every single thing possible is happening there is no good or bad, they are all a part of absolute infinity. You are doing all of the "good" and "bad" things right now in absolute infinity. Nothing you do matters. You've already made that decision, you've killed people, you've loved, you've done everything.

Once you get to that realization, you can finally move on to other things. Metaphysics and existentialism go nowhere.
 

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It's not that blurry and plenty of choices are made without concious thought or self awareness, which is what I'm getting at if you're trying to be literal. The overwelming majority of people who step in dog shyt don't intend to do so. But putting your foot here instead of there, is a choice, regardless of how unaware you were of where your choices were leading you to.

This is what 'karma' really is about, not retribution but the causal root of the effects you experience in life, which are often made without any degree of concious/self awarness.
No breh. Choices are conscious. U don’t choose to catch a stray bullet.
 

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When I was a child I considered solipsism a possibility, wondering if anything was real outside of what I perceived in the moment. That perhaps I was all that was real and the rest maybe just some projection of my own mind. I got this theory by being a lucid dreamer since age 6.

As I aged though, I began to see the other possibility of the collective human consciousness. I noticed that in my lucid dreams all of my dream figments (beings in my dreams) seem to have their own minds, ideas, views; but they were all still a part of my own consciousness. So my consciousness seemed to be able to create a vast number of beings who seemed to have a sentience of their own. So I began to consider the possibility that our reality is not physically based one but consciousness based, and that consciousness is shared among all of us. That perhaps we are in fact all shards of one consciousness experiencing existence in an innumerable number of existences. Kind of in the idea of the concept of a fractal. That perhaps existence is a fractal, and no matter how many times you slice it, it all still has the same elements in it to create an experience in a reality.

So perhaps even my dream figments dream of other realities and sentient beings.
 

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Just think of what you're gonna experience when you go back to an atomic form.
 

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No breh. Choices are conscious. U don’t choose to catch a stray bullet.

:laugh:

It's not about chosing to specifically catch a stray bullet any more than someone might choose to specifically step in a pile of dog shyt.

I know it probably doesn't jive with most people because most people have control issues. But again...you make PLENTY of choices on auto-pilot every day, cause and effect doesn't stop being in play just because you aren't paying much attention to what you're doing.

Human beings spend most of their waking life re-acting to the external world from the persona (or ego). The most useful thing about solipsim is getting one internally focused as the narrator (the observer) of their story instead of a charcter with habits, traits and choices on deck custom fit to keep your experience of this illusion in tact. Where it fukks people up at is they begin to intellectualize and try breaking everything down instead of actually taking self responsibility for how they percieve and thus experience life.
 

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So when said person has something happen that they have no control over :jbhmm:
Like say a stray bullet
Philosophical idiots will say it doesn't exist. You didn't really get hit in your liver and bleed out and die because nothing "external of the mind" can be proven right:mjlol:

These Looney Tunes really be thinking they're God with all these ridiculous concepts and theories that they come up with. And you almost have to have absolutely no common/street sense whatsoever to even entertain them.

"The only thing one has direct access to is the contents of one's own mind (one's mental states). What one knows most certainly are one's mental states – one's thoughts, experiences, emotions, and so on."

:skip: oh really, ya don't say

"Just because one sees an object does not mean that the object exists. One could be dreaming or hallucinating. There is no direct conceptual or logically necessary link between the mental and the physical.

:laff: I'm dead. Somebody gotta break this down for me man, because I was fukked up mentally for a lil while when I dropped my nightcap joint in the rain earlier. There was definitely a link there if you ask me.
Me, drop physical item in a physical element, the conjunction of said physical item with said physical element changed its physical components and physical functionality....and I was mad and sad as a bytch as a result. What the fukk do these dudes be talking about man :hhh:
So what I'm supposed to do the next time I drop a joint in the rain, how am I supposed to perceive that event based on this theory?


"The experiences of a given person are necessarily private to that person. The contents of one's mind are the only things one has direct access to. One cannot get ‘outside’ of one's mind to encounter any other objects including other persons. Other minds are even more removed."

WHO DIDN'T KNOW THIS?!! That doesn't make reality not reality tho



Ay real talk man, a dude like Mr. Ludwig Wittgenstein was supposed to have been committed upon his completion of HS. Because a nikka that sits around and just makes up some bullshyt like this and try to preach it as gospel shouldn't be roaming the streets....yet long his name living on. Tf
 
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Welcome to the Game of Souls... It all plays out inside your head therefore you only ever interact with figments of your own imagination and projection. Think:

There is a bar filled with all kinds of people doing all kinds of things. Person A is angry within and not long after he steps in someone spills his drink so he responds with his fists and is thrown out of the establishment whilst giving the bouncers a few digs as well. He strolls away, mumbling and grumbling about how people are always starting ish.

Person B stepped in moments before him and his primary motivating emotion is the joy of discovering new things and as he's standing at the bar waiting for a drink he turns to the girl next to him and says "Have you ever tried this position?" and then proceeds to outline the Taoist Thrust in great precision like you'd expect from an 8 Foot, 8 Cert, 8 Series, 8 Figure Coli breh and leaves with her in an instant.

Because of the dominant internal state that defines their terrain and landscape they each attract to them externally that which will fulfill their expectation via projection and illusion as illustrated in the script. Now lets say Person A takes a large dose of empathogens and discovers the true source the rage within was actually his childhood treatment via neglectful parents where he edited the narrative to make it seem less worse than it is as a survival mechanism but this in turn generated the long reaching consequence of always fighting and finding people were more than happy to oblige him.

Armed with this flip were he to step into the same bar again, the same event, same sequence that person wouldn't have spilled his drink and if they did he wouldn't have leapt at the chance to vent and project as that subconscious blockage within melted during his trip.

Given this outline I'm sure you can relate to how obvious and subtle the entire process is because we've all witnessed events like this hence when one finger is pointing out at the "problem" three are directed at the only true cause and thus solution.

Taking it to another level and very easy to test is just look at how people on here post and comment. What kind of threads they create, what they share within, who interacts with them and with what type of resonance. That will offer you a perfect glimpse inside their mind (of which you are just a figment) and vice versa as well.

The coding of the Game is very clever, simple and efficient. So much so that its easier to believe the delusion of illusion in confusion that the mass accept rather than what becomes Self evident once you've stepped onto the Path of Power and reclaimed your kingdom. Matter of fact one of the first posts I published highlighted this paradox real well along with offering hints about the Devilish spells of the forked tongue language:

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"You are another me, together we. There is a beautifully elegant simplicity behind reality, on both sides I may add, and once you see it can’t be unseen no more than a thought can be un-thought. Once its done that vibration rings out into the cosmos and the same tone reverberates within as you, yes you, are the ultimate source of all that is right and wrong with the world. Like I said, responsibility. Its the key to set yourself free and freedom is an inside job plus the locks, whilst hard to see, are easy to perceive because we wrestle with the principalities where flesh, bone and spirituality meet. That last one also doesn’t mean what you think it means…"


Welcome to the Game of Souls... Where we don't see the world as it is but as we are. Change your mind and your life will rearrange in real time but only if you're willing to put the work in and delve beneath the surface. Could you, for example, stand perfectly still whilst thinking of nothing in silence for twenty minutes?
 

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Interesting exercise in the "truth" behind perception of self and it's connection to consciousness. I read an article that mirrors this from a quantum physics standpoint when it comes to "reality" and what that actually means if perception/consciousness alters the "reality" of physical particles as soon as they come into our "existence". It got really paradoxical but I found it an interesting thought exercise to spend a day or two with.
 
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Wow, @RickyDiBiase negged me for this post with this message: "For being a ADOS shill ABA bytch".
Talk about being in your feelings. I can see why you would hate these discussions. You don't have the maturity to handle them. And for what it's worth, I'm not ADOS, this is well known, but I'm not going to act like they don't have a culture, they do. Moreover, my point stands, even more given how all the different religions and customs the slaves and blacks in general put together in response to their experiences in America.

Edit: I'll make a separate thread on this for the sake of this thread. The bytch born beta bytch Boy is in full blown bytch boy meltdown mode in my mentions. O i am laffin. :mjlol:
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So when said person has something happen that they have no control over :jbhmm:
Like say a stray bullet

“Getting hit by and killed by a stray bullet can only occur if you believe it happened” is what someone who believes in this way of thinking would answer :yeshrug:
 

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Keep thy heart (mind) with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life. Proverbs 4:23

For as he thinketh in his heart(mind), so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; But his heart is not with thee. Proverbs 23:7

An heart(mind) that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,” Proverbs 6:18



5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 2 Corinthians 10:5
 

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“Getting hit by and killed by a stray bullet can only occur if you believe it happened” is what someone who believes in this way of thinking would answer :yeshrug:


This is taking quantum superpositioining to an unnecessary logical extreme
 

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This is taking quantum superpositioining to an unnecessary logical extreme

I agree. I’m not saying it’s what I believe, I’m saying that’s the opinion OP brought up for debate to answer that question
 
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