Clock work orange 
What's Stanley Kubrick's best film
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That movie fukking weirds me the fukk out.Clock work orange
I don't understand how people like that shyt... I never want to see that movie again.
I honestly can't even quantify my feelings about the film. I don't know if I don't like it, or if I do. I'm just left with a weirded out feeling the entire time. I honestly need to rewatch it again and try to solidify some feelings on it.
jaydolf spitler
Superstar
I mean the beginning of it. One of the funniest starts to a movie I've ever seen. It did get suspenseful and dramatic throughout the rest tho. Been a while since I've seen it
jaydolf spitler
Superstar
I liked it so much for its social commentary. Before I turned it on I made sure to read what the underlying themes of the movie were and what kind of dialogues it was trying to incarnate. Had I not read up on all that before watching it, I might not have seen the bigger picture of the movie
Some of the issues:
Morality[edit]
The film's central moral question (as in many of Burgess' books) is the definition of "goodness" and whether it makes sense to use aversion therapy to stop immoral behaviour.[5] Stanley Kubrick, writing in Saturday Review, described the film as:
"...A social satire dealing with the question of whether behavioural psychology and psychological conditioning are dangerous new weapons for a totalitarian government to use to impose vast controls on its citizens and turn them into little more than robots."[6]
Similarly, on the film production's call sheet (cited at greater length above), Kubrick wrote:
"It is a story of the dubious redemption of a teenage delinquent by condition-reflex therapy. It is, at the same time, a running lecture on free-will."
After aversion therapy, Alex behaves like a good member of society, but not by choice. His goodness is involuntary; he has become the titular clockwork orange — organic on the outside, mechanical on the inside. In the prison, after witnessing the Technique in action on Alex, the chaplain criticises it as false, arguing that true goodness must come from within. This leads to the theme of abusing liberties — personal, governmental, civil — by Alex, with two conflicting political forces, the Government and the Dissidents, both manipulating Alex for their purely political ends.[7] The story critically portrays the "conservative" and "liberal" parties as equal, for using Alex as a means to their political ends: the writer Frank Alexander — a victim of Alex and gang — wants revenge against Alex and sees him as a means of definitively turning the populace against the incumbent government and its new regime. Mr. Alexander fears the new government; in telephonic conversation, he says:
"...Recruiting brutal young roughs into the police; proposing debilitating and will-sapping techniques of conditioning. Oh, we've seen it all before in other countries; the thin end of the wedge! Before we know where we are, we shall have the full apparatus of totalitarianism."
On the other side, the Minister of the Interior (the Government) jails Mr. Alexander (the Dissident Intellectual) on excuse of his endangering Alex (the People), rather than the government's totalitarian regime (described by Mr. Alexander). It is unclear whether or not he has been harmed; however, the Minister tells Alex that the writer has been denied the ability to write and produce "subversive" material that is critical of the incumbent government and meant to provoke political unrest.
It has been noted that Alex's immorality is reflected in the society in which he lives.[8] The Cat Lady's love of hardcore pornographic art is comparable to Alex's taste for sex and violence. Lighter forms of pornographic content adorn Alex's parents' home and, in a later scene, Alex awakens in hospital from his coma, interrupting a nurse and doctor engaged in a sexual act.
Psychology[edit]
Ludovico technique apparatus
Another critical target is the behaviourism or "behavioural psychology" propounded by psychologists John B. Watson and B. F. Skinner. Burgess disapproved of behaviourism, calling Skinner's book Beyond Freedom and Dignity (1971) "one of the most dangerous books ever written." Although behaviourism's limitations were conceded by its principal founder, Watson, Skinner argued that behaviour modification — specifically, operant conditioning (learned behaviours via systematic reward-and-punishment techniques) rather than the "classical" Watsonian conditioning — is the key to an ideal society. The film'sLudovico technique is widely perceived as a parody of aversion therapy which is a form of classical conditioning.[9] Author Paul Duncan said of Alex: "Alex is the narrator so we see everything from his point of view, including his mental images. The implication is that all of the images, both real and imagined, are part of Alex's fantasies". [10] Psychiatrist Aaron Stern, the former head of the MPAA rating board, believed that Alex represents man in his natural state, the unconscious mind. Alex becomes "civilised" after receiving his Ludovico "cure", and the sickness in the aftermath Stern considered to be the "neurosis imposed by society".[11] Kubrick stated to Philip Strick and Penelope Houston that he believed Alex "makes no attempt to deceive himself or the audience as to his total corruption or wickedness. He is the very personification of evil. On the other hand, he has winning qualities: his total candour, his wit, his intelligence and his energy; these are attractive qualities and ones, which I might add, which he shares with Richard III."[12]
Most of those lines were written/improvised by R lee ermey, but before they even ship off to war shyt got DARK AS fukk in regards to Private Pyle, and not just the murder/suicide, him constantly fukking up, belittled and made fun of/abused was sad. vincent donofrio is one of many underutilized great actors.
Adam3000
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Haven't read this thread yet, but as I go through it I'm pos-repping anybody that says Dr. Strangelove and will consider negging all the heathens that don't 
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disgustya
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OmegaK2099
Gettin' It In
My list is basically not what I consider his best movies in terms of my own enjoyment but basically which are examples of Kubrick's directing prowess at its best and as much as I love Dr. Strangelove it comes a notch below 2001 in terms of direction.Haven't read this thread yet, but as I go through it I'm pos-repping anybody that says Dr. Strangelove and will consider negging all the heathens that don't
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disgustya
IllustratorMike
All Star
A Clockwork Orange
The Shining and Eyes Wide Shut
...what I realize from Kubrick's filmography, alot of his movies I never finished watching
Cuz, it was either too confusing, or my young self wasn't ready for that uber PIFF
...what I realize from Kubrick's filmography, alot of his movies I never finished watching
Cuz, it was either too confusing, or my young self wasn't ready for that uber PIFF
Grand Conde
Superstar
...ummm Paths of Glory?
