What's the coli's opinion on this take by Dr.Umar?

[The Burger King]

Bottom Line: Many black men want the benefits of having a black patriarchy but don't want the responsibilities of creating it. Black men think going to other men's patriarchy is a form of success that naturally places you inferior to those men in their patriarchy.

Okay brother, let me ask you this.

What can and should responsible black men do to fix the issue (young men running around with no guidance) that we haven’t tried already?

Mind you, the things Dr. Umar has said we should do we have already done and are continuing to do.

There are plenty of inner-city “big brother” type of programs where black men offer mentorship to young black boys who need it.

There are plenty of black frats and social organizations that organize food/school supply drives for kids from low income families.

I know these things to be true because I participated in many of these programs when I was in college and still believed in the concept of “saving” the community.

I legitimately want to know what you and Dr. Umar’s ilk believe we can do about this problem.

 

[African Peasant]

If you dont know that white women are the most protected and quickest to gain wealth in this country idk what to tell you

McKenzie bezos is now the richest woman in the world because she divorced and took from the richest white man.

Get your head out of your ass and join the future

By who? The power structure built and operated by white men.

Open your eyes.

 

[DEANBIGBROTHERALLMIGHTY18]

Okay brother, let me ask you this.

What can and should responsible black men do to fix the issue (young men running around with no guidance) that we haven’t tried already?

Mind you, the things Dr. Umar has said we should do we have already done and are continuing to do.

There are plenty of inner-city “big brother” type of programs where black men offer mentorship to young black boys who need it.

There are plenty of black frats and social organizations that organize food/school supply drives for kids from low income families.

I know these things to be true because I participated in many of these programs when I was in college and still believed in the concept of “saving” the community.

I legitimately want to know what you and Dr. Umar’s ilk believe we can do about this problem.

1., there are no punishment mechanisms for these " pookies and ray rays". Collectively, Black men lack the capacity to put the fear of god in pookies to the point that they would be afraid to shoot up public places or do fukked up shyt like robbing black grandmas.
2. Black Youth indirectly don't respect black men because Black men don't provide opportunities for them. Largely Black youth and women have to beg for jobs from men of other communities.
3. We need to highlight more successful non-entertainment role models for young black men. Black Youth don't really see any Black men really doing it like that except for entertainers and or hood dudes. Black men don't have to be either pookies or educated lames but choose to be strong, financially independent, intelligent and proud men.
4. Black men have to largely get serious about acquiring wealth, power, and resources and not simply working for white people. Many black men value white validation over self-determination. Black men need therapy to overcome self-hate and an inferiority complex which is understandable because we are constantly attacked by psychological warfare.


Yes. Dr. Umar often panders to single mothers and needs to offer reasoned criticism of single mothers. Letting them know that it's unfair to expect productive black men to be purely ok to accept single mothers as a spouse.

 

[The Burger King]

1., there are no punishment mechanisms for these " pookies and ray rays". Collectively, Black men lack the capacity to put the fear of god in pookies to the point that they would be afraid to shoot up public places or do fukked up shyt like robbing black grandmas.
2. Black Youth indirectly don't respect black men because Black men don't provide opportunities for them. Largely Black youth and women have to beg for jobs from men of other communities.
3. We need to highlight more successful non-entertainment role models for young black men. Black Youth don't really see any Black men really doing it like that except for entertainers and or hood dudes. Black men don't have to be either pookies or educated lames but choose to be strong, financially independent, intelligent and proud men.
4. Black men have to largely get serious about acquiring wealth, power, and resources and not simply working for white people. Many black men value white validation over self-determination. Black men need therapy to overcome self-hate and an inferiority complex which is understandable because we are constantly attacked by psychological warfare.


Yes. Dr. Umar often panders to single mothers and needs to offer reasoned criticism of single mothers. Letting them know that it's unfair to expect productive black men to be purely ok to accept single mothers as a spouse.

1. I halfway agree. It’s not that we can’t do it, it’s that:

- Those of us who are at least somewhat successful don’t live in areas that are affected by these men.

- We understand that these degenerate men are, often times, protected and even revered by the same people who want us to correct them.

You see it on here all the time. In the black community, thug nikkas are somehow seen as “victims of the system” rather than what they are, which is urban terrorists.

Let the good ones amongst us start kicking ass and taking names and see how quick many of our own will run to white people to have the movement shutdown.

See: the Detroit 300.

Also, understand this.

If I have to go into a community and start cleaning up people’s mess and involving myself in their drama, from that point on I’m ruling with an iron fist.

Just to give you a historical example, that’s what happened when Saddam Hussein took over Iraq.

All of these different sects were beefing with each other, Saddam came in, took power and oppressed everyone (regardless of affiliation) so that it wouldn’t happen under his watch.

Personally, I don’t think black people in America are at that point where we need that type of totalitarian leadership.

We just gotta stop caping for these nikkas and start letting them deal with the consequences of their actions.


2. I partially agree on this as well. Maybe it’s a regional thing, but I live in Dallas.

We have entire black suburbs down here and there are plenty of black-owned businesses.

From my own personal experience, it ain’t that black men don’t provide opportunities for black women and children.

What I see often times is that often times black business owners (male and female alike) aren’t met with the same respect by their customers and employees alike, as their white counterparts are.

I’ve witnessed and experienced it myself, but that’s a totally different conversation. I do partially agree with you, though.


3. There are plenty of black male doctors, lawyers, engineers, architects, etc.

If you live in a predominately black area, there’s a good chance you see these and interact with these people anyway.

Like, when I was a kid, I knew these people existed.

So I’m not sure why we try to act like we don’t know these people exist.

We know they exist, they’re just considered “lame” by you know who, so the youth don’t aspire to be like them.

You want to know who taught me I could be aspire anything I want, even President one day (prior to the Obama years)?

My father, who would be considered “lame” by many black people’s standards.


4. There’s some validity to this, but again, there are already black men who think this way and are building up their own.

For some reason, many of you have this idea that we need to get ALL black men on one accord.

When in actuality, all it takes is a few of us to cooperate with and build with each other. Look at the Jews.

I also don’t know why some of y’all try to push this idea that regular “square” productive black men hate ourselves.

We ain’t the ones in the streets killing other black men for sport.

We ain’t the ones that made a billion dollar business out of wearing other people’s hair.

I could go deeper, but if I did it would turn this thread into a shyt show.

 

[Neuromancer]

1. I halfway agree. It’s not that we can’t do it, it’s that:

- Those of us who are at least somewhat successful don’t live in areas that are affected by these men.

- We understand that these degenerate men are, often times, protected and even revered by the same people who want us to correct them.

You see it on here all the time. In the black community, thug nikkas are somehow seen as “victims of the system” rather than what they are, which is urban terrorists.

Let the good ones amongst us start kicking ass and taking names and see how quick many of our own will run to white people to have the movement shutdown.

See: the Detroit 300.

Also, understand this.

If I have to go into a community and start cleaning up people’s mess and involving myself in their drama, from that point on I’m ruling with an iron fist.

Just to give you a historical example, that’s what happened when Saddam Hussein took over Iraq.

All of these different sects were beefing with each other, Saddam came in, took power and oppressed everyone (regardless of affiliation) so that it wouldn’t happen under his watch.

Personally, I don’t think black people in America are at that point where we need that type of totalitarian leadership.

We just gotta stop caping for these nikkas and start letting them deal with the consequences of their actions.


2. I partially agree on this as well. Maybe it’s a regional thing, but I live in Dallas.

We have entire black suburbs down here and there are plenty of black-owned businesses.

From my own personal experience, it ain’t that black men don’t provide opportunities for black women and children.

What I see often times is that often times black business owners (male and female alike) aren’t met with the same respect by their customers and employees alike, as their white counterparts are.

I’ve witnessed and experienced it myself, but that’s a totally different conversation. I do partially agree with you, though.


3. There are plenty of black male doctors, lawyers, engineers, architects, etc.

If you live in a predominately black area, there’s a good chance you see these and interact with these people anyway.

Like, when I was a kid, I knew these people existed.

So I’m not sure why we try to act like we don’t know these people exist.

We know they exist, they’re just considered “lame” by you know who, so the youth don’t aspire to be like them.

You want to know who taught me I could be aspire anything I want, even President one day (prior to the Obama years)?

My father, who would be considered “lame” by many black people’s standards.


4. There’s some validity to this, but again, there are already black men who think this way and are building up their own.

For some reason, many of you have this idea that we need to get ALL black men on one accord.

When in actuality, all it takes is a few of us to cooperate with and build with each other. Look at the Jews.

I also don’t know why some of y’all try to push this idea that regular “square” productive black men hate ourselves.

We ain’t the ones in the streets killing other black men for sport.

We ain’t the ones that made a billion dollar business out of wearing other people’s hair.

I could go deeper, but if I did it would turn this thread into a shyt show.

A lot of know black men like this. My father was a black man like this, my eldest brother is and so is my MMA coach. They're just forgotten about when it's convenient.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Umar is a scammer/grifter. He talks a good talk but just as unproductive as the men he's talking about. He's also fat.

 

[DEANBIGBROTHERALLMIGHTY18]

Umar is a scammer/grifter. He talks a good talk but just as unproductive as the men he's talking about. He's also fat.

Out of curiosity, does his fatness indicate a larger issue?

 

[Yehuda]

He needs to start paying child support.

FOR GOOD.

 

[Piff Perkins]

So the impression I'm getting is that black men have no obligation to improve the community, but black men should be in charge. On a forum allegedly full of black men there's never any discussion about community work. But there's plenty about gender wars and bullshyt.

We don't have to remake the wheel, the blueprint already exists. When BLM first popped up I wondered if we may see a recreation of the Black Panthers' community work: urban gardening, food programs for children, hospital transportation for the elderly, healthcare clinics, mentorship for children, education classes, clothing drives, self defense classes, etc. We know how that story ended, but in my mind this remains the best blueprint for community work. There are obviously communities that do various parts of this throughout the country, in every state. But there is no singular connection or organization. This is definitely something black men could organize and operate. Women would be involved obviously but the heavy lifting would be done by men.

My issue with the Coli is that parts of this exist today like I said, yet I don't get the impression most people here are involved. I do the Big Brother Big Sister programs all the time, I've volunteered at health clinics, etc. How about you?

 

[Barlow]

By who? The power structure built and operated by white men.

Open your eyes.

If you want a “power” structure for us based off of white men and womens relationship then god help you

I guess you’re into rampant homos, pedos, trannys, feminism, the intersectionality etc…

You wanna be like the next loser ass white man who shoots up a school because his women likes black dikk then go ahead I guess

 

[Barlow]

This is false. Most white women are definitely not with the feminist agenda. Most white women indirectly or directly support the white patriarchy. Most top-earning white women professionals from top-tier universities eventually get married in the early stage of their careers to become stay-at-home wives for high-earning white men. Stop spreading misinformation. The only white women, you see working past 40 are either lesbians, not attractive, don't have a strong family structure or the super type A women whose masculine energy turns off most men,

“Top earning professional from a top tier university” is not no way indicative of the average person nor do I think you even have a source for that. Let’s stick to reality here.

The reality is if white men had this mythical control y’all worship them for having then they wouldn’t be throwing the giant hissy fit that they have been.

Being set up for life, not having to work, not having to face consequences, and being able to quickly siphon is not being controlled you idiot.

They support white men because they’re PARTNERS. Duh they support them when they fukk YOU over. Clearly they don’t have a problem fighting their own men though.

You didn’t explain control you just explained being a cuck

 

[Amo Husserl]

We need to have these convos behind closed doors off-line.

 

[The Burger King]

A lot of know black men like this. My father was a black man like this, my eldest brother is and so is my MMA coach. They're just forgotten about when it's convenient.

Exactly.

This is why I feel very strongly about this subject.

My own father, for example, took in three of my cousins from my mother’s side.

Him and my mother believed they could provide them with better opportunities than they would receive living with their dysfunctional ass mother.

Yet, despite all of the money, time and effort my parents put into them, when they eventually moved back in with their mother (after about a decade) within a year they managed to ruin their lives.

One is a fukking junkie and child molester.

Another one got a fat white bytch pregnant and is on section 8.

Third one is a single mother and bedwench to a bottom shelf brad that has a bunch of black baby mamas in the small town they live in.

But let these nikkas on here tell it, men like my father don’t exist and my three cousins didn’t amount to shyt because black men like him somehow failed the community.

Nah, they failed because the rest of my family would coddle them and make excuses for them when my parents would try to push them to do better.

And they eventually chose to take the easy way out and return to living with their dysfunctional ass mother.

That’s the real issue in the black community, like I’ve said before.

We sit back and coddle people who wanna take the easy way out and make excuses for them.

Then wanna turn to the people who did what they’re supposed to do and put all of the blame on them.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Out of curiosity, does his fatness indicate a larger issue?

Possibly but not necessarily.

 

[Blessings]

Exactly.

This is why I feel very strongly about this subject.

My own father, for example, took in three of my cousins from my mother’s side.

Him and my mother believed they could provide them with better opportunities than they would receive living with their dysfunctional ass mother.

Yet, despite all of the money, time and effort my parents put into them, when they eventually moved back in with their mother (after about a decade) within a year they managed to ruin their lives.

One is a fukking junkie and child molester.

Another one got a fat white bytch pregnant and is on section 8.

Third one is a single mother and bedwench to a bottom shelf brad that has a bunch of black baby mamas in the small town they live in.

But let these nikkas on here tell it, men like my father don’t exist and my three cousins didn’t amount to shyt because black men like him somehow failed the community.

Nah, they failed because the rest of my family would coddle them and make excuses for them when my parents would try to push them to do better.

And they eventually chose to take the easy way out and return to living with their dysfunctional ass mother.

That’s the real issue in the black community, like I’ve said before.

We sit back and coddle people who wanna take the easy way out and make excuses for them.

Then wanna turn to the people who did what they’re supposed to do and put all of the blame on them.

Thank You….it’s easy to be reactive, telling black men who already volunteer their time to volunteer some more and become stepfathers