What's the coli's opinion on this take by Dr.Umar?

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Exactly.

This is why I feel very strongly about this subject.

My own father, for example, took in three of my cousins from my mother’s side.

Him and my mother believed they could provide them with better opportunities than they would receive living with their dysfunctional ass mother.

Yet, despite all of the money, time and effort my parents put into them, when they eventually moved back in with their mother (after about a decade) within a year they managed to ruin their lives.

One is a fukking junkie and child molester.

Another one got a fat white bytch pregnant and is on section 8.

Third one is a single mother and bedwench to a bottom shelf brad that has a bunch of black baby mamas in the small town they live in.

But let these nikkas on here tell it, men like my father don’t exist and my three cousins didn’t amount to shyt because black men like him somehow failed the community.

Nah, they failed because the rest of my family would coddle them and make excuses for them when my parents would try to push them to do better.

And they eventually chose to take the easy way out and return to living with their dysfunctional ass mother.

That’s the real issue in the black community, like I’ve said before.

We sit back and coddle people who wanna take the easy way out and make excuses for them.

Then wanna turn to the people who did what they’re supposed to do and put all of the blame on them.

Sorry I am jumping in in the middle of the conversation so forgive me if I am off base but the issue expressed by Dr. Umar in the clip and many others is not that there aren't individual good black men.

The issue is that there is no collective effort to change a negative community. Just "taking care of your own" is not enough because children stop being influenced by their parents pretty early, and the culture takes over.

It's like cooking a beautiful meal and then setting it on top of a heap of garbage and then expecting it to stay edible.

Individualism does not work. I think a lot of AA really do not comprehensive group economics. How most other communities interact when it comes to group economics compare to how AA participant in economics is literally night and day.

Until BP really get a firm grasp on the concept nothing will change. And no one is teaching it and I have yet to see or meet an AA who full grasps it or participates in it fully.

 

[Neuromancer]

Exactly.

This is why I feel very strongly about this subject.

My own father, for example, took in three of my cousins from my mother’s side.

Him and my mother believed they could provide them with better opportunities than they would receive living with their dysfunctional ass mother.

Yet, despite all of the money, time and effort my parents put into them, when they eventually moved back in with their mother (after about a decade) within a year they managed to ruin their lives.

One is a fukking junkie and child molester.

Another one got a fat white bytch pregnant and is on section 8.

Third one is a single mother and bedwench to a bottom shelf brad that has a bunch of black baby mamas in the small town they live in.

But let these nikkas on here tell it, men like my father don’t exist and my three cousins didn’t amount to shyt because black men like him somehow failed the community.

Nah, they failed because the rest of my family would coddle them and make excuses for them when my parents would try to push them to do better.

And they eventually chose to take the easy way out and return to living with their dysfunctional ass mother.

That’s the real issue in the black community, like I’ve said before.

We sit back and coddle people who wanna take the easy way out and make excuses for them.

Then wanna turn to the people who did what they’re supposed to do and put all of the blame on them.

Well said.

 

[Neuromancer]

So the impression I'm getting is that black men have no obligation to improve the community, but black men should be in charge

Who are you getting that impression from? The black men who are trying to improve the community like @Burger King mentioned? Or the ones who don't care? You gotta be specific because everyone seems to want to lump all black men and we aren't all the same.

 

[DEANBIGBROTHERALLMIGHTY18]

Possibly but not necessarily.

Fatness to me means : lack of discipline, lack of self-regulation, low self-esteem

 

[African Peasant]

If you want a “power” structure for us based off of white men and womens relationship then god help you

I guess you’re into rampant homos, pedos, trannys, feminism, the intersectionality etc…

You wanna be like the next loser ass white man who shoots up a school because his women likes black dikk then go ahead I guess

You have no argument so you start babbling. Sad.

 

[African Peasant]

Bingo. Most black men are powerless and most don't see anything wrong with this situation. Eventually, powerless men get exterminated politically, socially, and physically.

And as you can see it in this thread, some black men have become so emasculated that they hate idea of power. Power to them means 'white people', oppression, racism, genocide, etc.

 

[Boxchevy]

They select them based on cultural incentives. It's a fundamental trait of a society to push this or that incentive. And it's up to men that lead the society to correct, rectify or amplify those inventives. It's called power. The problem is that black men are powerless and some want to stay like that.

Black men could change this dynamic overnight if they cared too...the issue is the majority of black men benefit from this dynamic, which is why black men are all talk when it comes to this subject and no action.

 

[Rakim Allah]

 

[Rakim Allah]

Black women could change this dynamic overnight if they cared to by protecting their wombs. The issue is the majority of black women benefit from this Black Gynocracy dynamic, which is why black woman and their pandering simp minions blame Black men so Black women don’t have to take accountability for their terrible decisions and actions, friends.

I wholeheartedly concur, friend.

 

[ThrobbingHood]

10 years ago, when I believed in the “black community”, I would’ve 100% agreed with Umar’s points.

Now that I’m older, have responsibilities and realize what a thankless job being selfless to ungrateful people is…. I say straight up “fukk em’”.

The burden of other people’s poor decisions shouldn’t fall on responsible men’s shoulders.

If we can’t even meet halfway between accountability and being benevolent then why should I sacrifice my resources? It’s a fools game and a guilt trip.

I’ve got a solid group of black professional friends. We all feel the same way. Call us bougie, call us snobs but one thing we won’t allow is for us to be guilted into cleaning up other people’s mess out of a false sense of duty.

Not everyone is meant to make it and not everyone will. It took me a long time to accept this.

 

[saturn7]

Enjoy, friends.

P getting to the heart of the matter on this Umar pandering.

 

[DEANBIGBROTHERALLMIGHTY18]

And as you can see it in this thread, some black men have become so emasculated that they hate idea of power. Power to them means 'white people', oppression, racism, genocide, etc.

You can say whatever about white people but they put the murder game down and oppressed other people to ensure the success of their people. White people (Europeans) really live by " Any means necessary". Many black men think just like women believing that other men are just going to relinquish power or resources or just to allow them to have an equal footing similar to the men in their own communities. Black men don't understand that power is a group sport where men of different ethnic groups are pursuing global domination.

 

[Rakim Allah]

P getting to the heart of the matter on this Umar pandering.

This video is more focused and to the point than the previous “value” video, friend

 

[SNG]

I agree with some of the points of Dr Umar in order for black men to do better they have to be around black men that want to see them do better. Black Active Fathers can fix alot of these issues.

 

[DA_LURKA]

I have to take responsibility for women's bad choices?