Whats these superstars excuse for not playing defence?

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Why do people always talk like this is some new age, modern problem or something? There have ALWAYS been big time scorers and superstars in the league who didn't D up on anybody.

Dominique Wilkins wasn't shutting anybody down. Neither was Charles Barkley. And on some one-on-one shyt, people were just blowing by Magic and Bird as well. Hell, the 80s was the era of guys not being guarded until they were within 16 feet of the basket.

For a lot of cats it's just a lot more important for them to use their talents and energy for offense as opposed to defense. Only ELITE perimeter players are great at both defense and offense. That's what makes the LeBrons, the Jordans, the Kobes, etc., etc., special.
 

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Some people are just sad on defense...

Durant and Melo are one of those people, More mind boggling is amare stoudamire what a waste...

Kobe is ok now but he was really something when he was younger.

Good Offense always beats good defense....so thats what they put their energy towards, Yeah you got Jordan but he is the goat...

its hard to play lockdown down d then put up 30 shots son.



Its all about effort breh, If you getting payed millions and your one of the most gifted people in the world then you have no excuse to be trash on defense. :upsetfavre:

I mean harden doest even contest shots :wtf:
 

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I swear my jaw dropped when i watch harden, dude doest even pretend to play defense:pachaha:


Hes taking 25 shots tho :youngsabo:

He aint taking no 25 shots unless you counting freee throws. He averages 16 shots a game. easily the least amount of shot among the top 5 scorer in the league where he ranks #5
 

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I think some of it has to do with their coach.

Bron wasn't really about that defense life til :whoo: came around
 

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He aint taking no 25 shots unless you counting freee throws. He averages 16 shots a game. easily the least amount of shot among the top 5 scorer in the league where he ranks #5



You know what i mean tho :youngsabo:


If harden actually tried on both ends of the court he could be so much better.
 

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You know what i mean tho :youngsabo:
Actually I don't. I'm starting to think you just have a fetish for posting the westbrook smiley.
If harden actually tried on both ends of the court he could be so much better.

Yeah, but then you could say that about most players in the NBA. Harden doing more than just chucking. He runs the offense.

I could care less about his individual defense, i just wish he would comit more to the team defense. Individual defense is overated, team defense is where it all matters.
 

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Its all about effort breh, If you getting payed millions and your one of the most gifted people in the world then you have no excuse to be trash on defense. :upsetfavre:

I mean harden doest even contest shots :wtf:

Harden also doesnt have a dependable second option...

Like I said Kobe was the last great two way player, in the last 2 seasons lebron has improved..but to me thats more spo's philosphy...maybe wade??

Like the other poster mentioned lebron was sad as fukk ...


I remember Deshawn Stevenson giving him the businss in Washington,



Its very hard to be an elite scorer and a top defensive guard...its rare.
 
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Harden also doesnt have a dependable second option...

Like I said Kobe was the last great two way player, in the last 2 seasons lebron has improved..but to me thats more spo's philosphy...maybe wade??

Like the other poster mentioned lebron was sad as fukk ...


I remember Deshawn Stevenson giving him the businss in Washington,

LeBron James DeShawn Stevenson Game Three Highlights - YouTube

Its very hard to be an elite scorer and a top defensive guard...its rare.

If we talking perimeter players, maybe. I mean Rondo, not scoring like Kobe, but he has just as much responsibilty on offense as Kobe does.
 

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Actually I don't. I'm starting to think you just have a fetish for posting the westbrook smiley.


Yeah, but then you could say that about most players in the NBA. Harden doing more than just chucking. He runs the offense.

I could care less about his individual defense, i just wish he would comit more to the team defense. Individual defense is overated, team defense is where it all matters.



Chill breh :whoa: Don't catch feelings when im making broad assumption over here :pachaha:


And that's my exact point, why is it ok to not give effort? either way i hope your rockets make some noise in the playoffs, my mavs have been eliminated :to:
 

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Some people are just sad on defense...

Durant and Melo are one of those people, More mind boggling is amare stoudamire what a waste...

Kobe is ok now but he was really something when he was younger.

Good Offense always beats good defense....so thats what they put their energy towards, Yeah you got Jordan but he is the goat...

its hard to play lockdown down d then put up 30 shots son.

You could sic Young Kobe on anybody and he'd shut them down back in the days....



btw back on topic : You need energy to play offense. And niccas get paid more for their offense. Defense is just a bonus. its fukked up but thats the way shyt is. :manny:
 

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If we talking perimeter players, maybe. I mean Rondo, not scoring like Kobe, but he has just as much responsibilty on offense as Kobe does.

lol no he don't..

Rondo's not even avery bradley status, he can get steals and sh1t but he dont be shutting guards down,

all rondo has to do is pass, he is like jason kidd was in his prime, which was why kidd was a great defender...


If you really sit and think, there just arent that many great 2 way players
 

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lol no he don't..

Rondo's not even avery bradley status, he can get steals and sh1t but he dont be shutting guards down,

all rondo has to do is pass, he is like jason kidd was in his prime, which was why kidd was a great defender...


If you really sit and think, there just arent that many great 2 way players



True.

and if you think about it avery bradley is offensively challenged, so he better be good on defense :ufdup:
 

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Harden also doesnt have a dependable second option...

Like I said Kobe was the last great two way player, in the last 2 seasons lebron has improved..but to me thats more spo's philosphy...maybe wade??

Like the other poster mentioned lebron was sad as fukk ...


I remember Deshawn Stevenson giving him the businss in Washington,

LeBron James DeShawn Stevenson Game Three Highlights - YouTube

Its very hard to be an elite scorer and a top defensive guard...its rare.

So you're just going to act like LeBron wasn't already a great defender while he was playing in Cleveland?
 
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