Or social divisions or any other divisions but that won't stop people.
What's with the double standard re: the Black Middle Class?
- Thread starter El Coupeacabra
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there is no such thing because most 'middle class' blacks still live in the hood or working class suburbs.
El Coupeacabra
Diamond Teeth Samurai
Well this is the difference between Middle and Upper-Middle no?
I'm in DFW and me and my BM will pull close to 90k combined. We're defo not rich and yeah if one of us became unable to work it'd probably cost us one of the cars but I wouldn't say we'd be in the hood. With just my income in a $800/mo hood spot we'd be hoodrich
IMO we have to ignore all the gloom and doom shyt just like we should have ignored the "GO TO COLLEGE!!....for what? Anything! Just go!" that was floated all throughout my childhood.
Our problem is that we spend all this time trying to avoid the Black apocalypse (which keeps changing. First it was Racism, then Heroin, then Hip Hop, then Gangs, then Crack, then the War on Drugs, then the Recession, and now Trump, and soon to be Student loans) without realizing that shyt continues forever....so go get a job and get paid and stop trying to fight the boogeyman that the media invented
Get in line.
This is America breh, where everyone gotta have a sob story.
Even George "Third-fukkin-generational-billionaire" Bush had one when he was coming up.
makes me think of when Mitt Romney said he was so poor at one point that he couldn't buy his wife a pony. And that they ate tuna helper using an ironing board for a table.
El Coupeacabra
Diamond Teeth Samurai
When you file your taxes, do you put your address in and the IRS says "damn nikka you live in Oak Cliff??? You make 88k but imma tax you like you made 28k cus you live in the hood breh"
Or is your tax bracket solely tied to your income
Also you should drive through Cedar Hill or DeSoto sometime and see what color the people outside barbecuing are
There is a difference between middle class and middle income.
You can have middle income but still be oriented to the working or under class.
Similarly, you can have low income and be oriented to the middle and upper classes.
Class is partly about income but so much more in terms of a worldview/outlook, habits, customs, socialization, etc.
It’s not black and white like most Americans think.
I personally think that most black people fall somewhere near being middle income but oriented towards the working class.
You can have middle income but still be oriented to the working or under class.
Similarly, you can have low income and be oriented to the middle and upper classes.
Class is partly about income but so much more in terms of a worldview/outlook, habits, customs, socialization, etc.
It’s not black and white like most Americans think.
I personally think that most black people fall somewhere near being middle income but oriented towards the working class.
I grew up in a middle class area in Brooklyn, yet there were still gangs, shootings, robberies, fights daily at school, scamming, drug dealing etc going on. It wasn't on a daily basis type shyt but you would be surprised the amount of shyt I remember happening growing up. It's been calm the last 3 years or so though.
You think it's calmer because of gentrification?
El Coupeacabra
Diamond Teeth Samurai
I get what your getting at but in reality it doesn't matter.
My pops is a small business owner who drives an 18wheeler. He grossed 200k last year.
My older cousin has a Master's degree in Business and manages a small sales firm (not sure exactly what they sell) and is clearing 125.
One of them wears a suit and drives a BMW to work. The other litetally wears a blue-collared button down.
Big Cus ain't seeing my dad though income wise and it shows.
There’s no misonomer you just want to how
you can be rich and lose it all that doesn’t mean you weren’t rich
The term "middle class" is BS, regardless of race. You're not middle class if you have to go to work, otherwise you'll be homeless in a few months. We have all been lied to about being middle class, to make us feel better about where we are in society, but with the way the economy has been going the pst 20 years, most people are now aware that we've been duped.
Most black people are working class. I experienced it for at hand. Before my dad got sick, we were doing great. After he got sick and had to take an early retirement, things went to shyt. Most would have called us middle class, but one event took us down to working class.
And that's just one part of the problem. The other part is that too often blackness is tied to struggling and poverty. We saw this with the TV shows back in the day. People acted like the Cosby Show was unrealistic, because they didn't know any blacks who lived like that. We also saw in shows like Fresh Prince, where Will was considered blacker than Carlton, because of their difference in social class and culture.
Most black people are working class. I experienced it for at hand. Before my dad got sick, we were doing great. After he got sick and had to take an early retirement, things went to shyt. Most would have called us middle class, but one event took us down to working class.
And that's just one part of the problem. The other part is that too often blackness is tied to struggling and poverty. We saw this with the TV shows back in the day. People acted like the Cosby Show was unrealistic, because they didn't know any blacks who lived like that. We also saw in shows like Fresh Prince, where Will was considered blacker than Carlton, because of their difference in social class and culture.
There is a big black middle class on the eastcoast: NY, DC, etc.
The thing is because now we are comin up and a large part of our population still broke we are often stereotyped as ''ghetto''... Sadly very often by our own community..
Not me tho, I came up on my own and Im still thoro as fukk
So bytch ass broke ass hatin ass nikkaz respect the grind
The thing is because now we are comin up and a large part of our population still broke we are often stereotyped as ''ghetto''... Sadly very often by our own community..
Not me tho, I came up on my own and Im still thoro as fukk
So bytch ass broke ass hatin ass nikkaz respect the grind
El Coupeacabra
Diamond Teeth Samurai
man whatI know millionaires who would be extra fukked if they retired today and sat at home and did nothing
I moved out of my mama's house at 19 making $762 every two weeks. nikka I was BROKE!!
Ain't no way 2012 me making 24k and 2019 me making 46k(ish) is in the came situation or category financially
We made it.Also just wanted to shout out to all black middle class Brooklyn. Canarsie, Flatlands, the black part of Mill Basin, and East Flatbush. We winning yall
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saturn7
Politics is an EXCHANGE!!!
Well this is the difference between Middle and Upper-Middle no?
I'm in DFW and me and my BM will pull close to 90k combined. We're defo not rich and yeah if one of us became unable to work it'd probably cost us one of the cars but I wouldn't say we'd be in the hood. With just my income in a $800/mo hood spot we'd be hoodrich
IMO we have to ignore all the gloom and doom shyt just like we should have ignored the "GO TO COLLEGE!!....for what? Anything! Just go!" that was floated all throughout my childhood.
Our problem is that we spend all this time trying to avoid the Black apocalypse (which keeps changing. First it was Racism, then Heroin, then Hip Hop, then Gangs, then Crack, then the War on Drugs, then the Recession, and now Trump, and soon to be Student loans) without realizing that shyt continues forever....so go get a job and get paid and stop trying to fight the boogeyman that the media invented
Half of blacks folks having negative to ZERO wealth is not a boogieman invented by the media.
I think the issues with blacks have around class (i hate that term I prefer middle income, lower income) is not so much income but social status.
Blue collar blacks can make the same amount of $$ or more than some white collar black folks but can still be looked down upon because blue collar careers don't seem to hold a high status as opposed to folks who work in Corp America or other white collar jobs.
Too many of our folks are Status struck. You see it with sistas alot. They straight look down on alot of good brothers who have blue collar jobs, their social value is not high enough in these edumacated women's eyes. We got a lot of bullshyt we need to get off.
