when AI makes STEM/Coding brehs obsolete......

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Breh,

Current AI often hallucinates functions/methods/props etc...

AI coding right now is ONLY effective if you ALSO know how to code.

Damn near every AI platform I've used for code assist has required me manually fixing code, or doing work-arounds so the AI doesn't try to refactor everything.

Cause when they do "Refactor" 9 times out of 10, the AI removes some shyt that was working before, essentially breaking the code or at least requiring a "Fix for the Fix".

Some day in the future possibly, but right now it ain't replacing coders
 
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We won't become obsolete. :mjlol:

You think you're smarter and more efficient then a quantum computer :childplease:




you better start lifting weights and learn how to use some hand tools; at the bare minimum have my coffee / bacon egg and cheese on deck by 9:05 sharp.
 

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how long will they last doing manual labor before they roll over and "die" :jbhmm:
PFT, I already know the boss firing me. I don't care how much i lift and how for I look, I'm lazy and will need to be fired.... And don't let it be hot enough outside for me to sweat, I'd definitely die.

But luckily I became a developer because I wanted to create. If I lose the developer title. Ill still be good
 

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how long will they last doing manual labor before they roll over and "die" :jbhmm:

We won't become obsolete. :mjlol:

Breh,

Current AI often hallucinates functions/methods/props etc...

AI coding right now is ONLY effective if you ALSO know how to code.

Damn near every AI platform I've used for code assist has required me manually fixing code, or doing work-arounds so the AI doesn't try to refactor everything.

Cause when they do "Refactor" 9 times out of 10, the AI removes some shyt that was working before, essentially breaking the code or at least requiring a "Fix for the Fix".

Some day in the future possibly, but right now it ain't replacing coders


If you work or worked in tech for a siginificant amount of time and understand software development (like me or clearly @Tair) or @Ty Daniels it's SO easy to see who's skimming hype/marketing headlines and who actually understands what's happening.

Understanding a) how software development works b) how (in)efficient AI is today to generate revenue for companies just by itself c) how important humans are to lead both developers and ensure code quality is high and best practices are followed, and that entire development teams including UI/UX designers, developers, animators you name it are working on the right things (this is my world) and ensure that the CEO/leadership vision is executed to the max level of efficiency to push up key performance indicators (like daily active users, lifetime value, average revenue per user etc.). is VITAL. That's not replaced with a "prompt" or an "agent that never sleeps".

YES you can code an by vibe coding.
YES there's some powerful stuff out there (for video editing, for managing agents, taking notes, creating assets, saving time, making quick prototypes)
NO no AI is beating in the field +10 years worth of human insight into what to build when, how to run a team properly, how to go from vision to revenue etc.
NO your UX or UI is not optimized just because an app was "delivered" by AI and you said "ok make the UI better"
NO you can't just sit back. You need to understand what users love, hate, need etc. to be able to even dream of optimizing KPIs AND beating the competition.

I can keep going brehs but you get the picture.
 

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You think you're smarter and more efficient then a quantum computer :childplease:




you better start lifting weights and learn how to use some hand tools; at the bare minimum have my coffee / bacon egg and cheese on deck by 9:05 sharp.

It's not about being "Smarter", one of the main issues is "Consistency" and "Drift".
The same lack of consistency or Drift, that exists in visual/generative AI for image/video models, also exists in coding models.

Where the model will sometimes Hallucinate code methods/props for certain code frameworks/languages that don't even exist.

When they concretely solve the "Drift/Consistency" issue, then and only then will it be something that seasoned developers will have to worry about
"Replacing Them".

Right now most of the "Generative Code" AI platforms can create "Apps", but once it is time to "Refactor" or create additions to the app, unless you have some sort of "safe guards" in-place, there always stands the chance that the coding model, removes/renames functions/methods/props breaking previous working code, and even the model will change UI (if that is part of the code being worked on), removing key UI elements.

There is also the issue of unnecessary complexity, that some coding models introduce to solve simple coding problems.
 
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If you work or worked in tech for a siginificant amount of time and understand software development (like me or clearly @Tair) or @Ty Daniels it's SO easy to see who's skimming hype/marketing headlines and who actually understands what's happening.

Understanding a) how software development works b) how (in)efficient AI is today to generate revenue for companies just by itself c) how important humans are to lead both developers and ensure code quality is high and best practices are followed, and that entire development teams including UI/UX designers, developers, animators you name it are working on the right things (this is my world) and ensure that the CEO/leadership vision is executed to the max level of efficiency to push up key performance indicators (like daily active users, lifetime value, average revenue per user etc.). is VITAL. That's not replaced with a "prompt" or an "agent that never sleeps".

YES you can code an by vibe coding.
YES there's some powerful stuff out there (for video editing, for managing agents, taking notes, creating assets, saving time, making quick prototypes)
NO no AI is beating in the field +10 years worth of human insight into what to build when, how to run a team properly, how to go from vision to revenue etc.
NO your UX or UI is not optimized just because an app was "delivered" by AI and you said "ok make the UI better"
NO you can't just sit back. You need to understand what users love, hate, need etc. to be able to even dream of optimizing KPIs AND beating the competition.

I can keep going brehs but you get the picture.

So for now a few will eat; and in a short time no human will eat.


You better be in the top percentile to be so confident.

the clock is ticking.
 
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