when AI makes STEM/Coding brehs obsolete......

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You think you're smarter and more efficient then a quantum computer :childplease:




you better start lifting weights and learn how to use some hand tools; at the bare minimum have my coffee / bacon egg and cheese on deck by 9:05 sharp.

If you referring to intelligence when you say smart then yes.

Octopi are more intelligent than any AI model in existence. As for quantum computing there is no intelligence there. Its just faster at processing programmed data following formulas a human had to generate/detail. Quantum computers also generate much more heat than a standard binary machine. The resources required to build and run a quantum data center for AI models is much more expensive than a standard DC.

We still dont have any real formula for how to replicate intelligence. Current AI is running data through model/algo iterations randomly to see what sticks. Thats part of the reason AI models are inefficient and the only solution for AI growth (right now) is more resources.
 

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Some day in the future possibly, but right now it ain't replacing coders

They will end up having to hire qualified coders to fix the code from the AI Model
The problem is not that it's not there today. It's how quickly it's getting better. Lot of cats were talking 5-10 years before worrying. It's rapidly getting better much faster than most people thought

Like what it was capable of 6 months ago to today.
 

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how is it babble?

because of generalised unfounded babble like ...

since the early 1900s technology has rapidly advanced.....

"rapidly advanced" but has slowed down now that the easy questions in science have been answered. this applies in particular to observational scientific discoveries.

in the past couple of years it's ten fold.

it's two AI advances in 20 years.

1. alphafold as a deep neural network with backpropagation.

2. all you need is attention paper in LLMs.

what do you SPECIFICALLY do from a desk that AI won't be able to master and do more efficient within the next couple of years?

i can understand what a program (general) will do.
 

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The problem is not that it's not there today. It's how quickly it's getting better.

it's not. chatgpt 5 is worse than 4. gemini created their first capable model.

Lot of cats were talking 5-10 years before worrying. It's rapidly getting better much faster than most people thought

"it's"? LLMs have hit a wall of diminishing returns.

blockchain babblers disguised its failings for years and that bubble, the tech and the finance were much smaller than now.

EDIT: IIRC you were blockchain babbler-in-chief

Like what it was capable of 6 months ago to today.

yeah like what?
 
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Therefore; you're probably for sure "safe." Would you honestly say the "fields" are not under direct threat? especially to someone who's young taking out massive loans to obtain an education for jobs that may or may not exist ten years from now?

do you know how LLMs work? what they do?
 

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you dotn think robots will do manual labor? Plus if all the white collar workers lose their jobs, business will be down for everyone


To an extent they can......but mostly no.



not for skilled trades; but for stoopid manual labor for sure.



And at least manual labor has unions to fight that fight.
 

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this is your defense.....yikes :picard:

i understand the american penchant for defence-by-insult so i understand.

but it is a genuine question. do you understand how they work?

why does that matter? because their limitations are baked into the design.

so i repeat the question: do you know how they work?

for bonus points: do you use them regularly, for anything serious/complex?
 

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Breh,

Current AI often hallucinates functions/methods/props etc...

AI coding right now is ONLY effective if you ALSO know how to code.

Damn near every AI platform I've used for code assist has required me manually fixing code, or doing work-arounds so the AI doesn't try to refactor everything.

Cause when they do "Refactor" 9 times out of 10, the AI removes some shyt that was working before, essentially breaking the code or at least requiring a "Fix for the Fix".

Some day in the future possibly, but right now it ain't replacing coders

as a non-programmer who has been been running various code created by LLM's since chatgpt debuted I strongly disagree. If you're inquisitive and have the mindset to troubleshoot then you can start off small with small projects to get productive results.
 

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i understand the american penchant for defence-by-insult so i understand.

but it is a genuine question. do you understand how they work?

why does that matter? because their limitations are baked into the design.

so i repeat the question: do you know how they work?

for bonus points: do you use them regularly, for anything serious/complex?

You sound like AI; of course you're downplaying this :dahell:
 

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To an extent they can......but mostly no.



not for skilled trades; but for stoopid manual labor for sure.



And at least manual labor has unions to fight that fight.

Yeah but the trickle down effect. Folks celebrating tech bros losing jobs don’t realize it circles back and hits everyone

These oligarchs aren’t trying to create new opportunities; they’re trying to run entire industries with as few workers as possible. When engineers, designers, analysts, and support staff are laid off, that’s thousands of people suddenly not spending. No dinners out. No new phones. No gym memberships. No daycare upgrades. No vacations. Then the ripple spreads.

The neighborhood restaurant loses regulars and shuts down.
Retail stores see slower sales and cut staff.
Landlords feel it when rent payments start slipping.
Airlines need bailouts or go under.
Cities lose tax revenue, so public services get cut.

Even people who think they’re “safe” aren’t. Gig workers get squeezed when Waymo-style self-driving cars replace rideshare drivers. Delivery drivers get undercut by drones and automated fulfillment. Warehouse jobs shrink as robotics scale up. Customer service roles vanish into AI chatbots. Marketing, accounting, paralegals same story.

When fewer people earn money, fewer people spend money. And when spending drops, small businesses die first, not billionaires. The rich still eat. Still travel. Still invest. Everyone else fights over fewer scraps.

So yeah, cheering layoffs because “they made more than me” is short-sighted. An economy can’t survive when productivity rises but wages and jobs disappear. You can’t automate your way to prosperity if no one can afford to buy what’s being produced.

Unions protect workers inside but they can’t protect a job that’s been eliminated. If an entire department is automated, outsourced, or “restructured,” seniority doesn’t matter. I've seen it any my work (hospital) they got rid of the whole unionized department for health records before it was manual and then became electronic. They were just given a decent severance package and given notice but being in a union did not protect them.
 

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as a non-programmer who has been been running various code created by LLM's since chatgpt debuted I strongly disagree. If you're inquisitive and have the mindset to troubleshoot then you can start off small with small projects to get productive results.


people like @null look at it with complete blinders on.


He isolates to one particular view and fails to see the bigger picture.

He only applies to what he deems is applicable to him.

Not realizing his predicament with his limited scope.



He's the type to get blindsided and laid the fukk out.


this is why he's chanting about LLMs.


it is what it is; dinosaurs will die.
 

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i understand the american penchant for defence-by-insult so i understand.

but it is a genuine question. do you understand how they work?

why does that matter? because their limitations are baked into the design.

so i repeat the question: do you know how they work?

for bonus points: do you use them regularly, for anything serious/complex?
They don't. Just doom and gloom from people outside the club. :manny:
 
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