when AI makes STEM/Coding brehs obsolete......

[the bossman]

it's not. chatgpt 5 is worse than 4. gemini created their first capable model.

yeah like what?

Breh stop waving your old man stick in the air. Take a step back and let's look at the big picture. This is not even debatable what's happening today. Let's put the hype aside and look at what's actually happening.

Virtually every image that any model ever generated always had those fukked up looking human fingers and was horrible at rendering text. Until nano banana pro dropped three months ago. Now that marketing manager might not need to hire freelance designers as much as he used to in the past. Analysts don't have to depend on design teams as much

Then even a year or two ago AI could help you code but you still needed to understand proper code syntax, install the right toolchains, manage the dependencies, debug whenever it got stuck, it struggled across multiple files, etc. Them days are gone now. Claude style code agents with opus 4.5 got completely non-technical ppl building full blown usable prototypes now over a weekend. Anybody in whatever company can build their own dashboard or internal tools for whatever they need

Are most of those apps secure, scalable, resilient? Not really. You still need your senior developers. But now you don't have to depend per wait on the engineering team just to get a prototype going. The effect on junior developer roles has been documented for past few months now.

Does the current state of where things are at today justify mass layoffs? No. But if this pace keeps up then there's no way you can say that there wouldn't be fundamental changes to a lot of white collar job roles

 

[Still Benefited]

A.I is mostly hype,i do believe the jig will be up soon.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Trust me. You dont want llm replacing devs. The world will collapse.


BTW we dont have ai, we have advanced chatbits

Thank you

And nowhere near AGI last I heard

This shyt about money right now, but could be a beautiful and useful thing with guidelines and guardrails. Especially economically

 

[cyndaquil]

If you work or worked in tech for a siginificant amount of time and understand software development (like me or clearly @Tair) or @Ty Daniels it's SO easy to see who's skimming hype/marketing headlines and who actually understands what's happening.

Understanding a) how software development works b) how (in)efficient AI is today to generate revenue for companies just by itself c) how important humans are to lead both developers and ensure code quality is high and best practices are followed, and that entire development teams including UI/UX designers, developers, animators you name it are working on the right things (this is my world) and ensure that the CEO/leadership vision is executed to the max level of efficiency to push up key performance indicators (like daily active users, lifetime value, average revenue per user etc.). is VITAL. That's not replaced with a "prompt" or an "agent that never sleeps".

YES you can code an by vibe coding.
YES there's some powerful stuff out there (for video editing, for managing agents, taking notes, creating assets, saving time, making quick prototypes)
NO no AI is beating in the field +10 years worth of human insight into what to build when, how to run a team properly, how to go from vision to revenue etc.
NO your UX or UI is not optimized just because an app was "delivered" by AI and you said "ok make the UI better"
NO you can't just sit back. You need to understand what users love, hate, need etc. to be able to even dream of optimizing KPIs AND beating the competition.

I can keep going brehs but you get the picture.

This is facts. But damn is everybody a developer on here?

 

[cyndaquil]

Current SWE will move into robotics/AI training/engineering. They won't have to work on finding errors and smaller tasks that take up a majority of their time, and they'll get to the "real work" faster, which will ultimately get them doing more work, not less.

Other STEM majors will work on interdisciplinary fields in robotics (from microfluidics/nanotech to wireless power transmission, and a bunch more areas)

If anything, AI will open up more areas for people to get into, not less.

But I find it hilarious that people think STEM cats just memorized some equations for plugging and chugging.

Cuz honestly there are a lot folks who don't work as or with SWEs professionally who took a boot camp during the pandemic or a course on free code camp or got stuck in tutorial hell on youtube and think software engineering is just simple HTTP methods doing CRUD on the backend (if they ever even got to that point) and a few simple html components and css on the front-end.

Type of people who think Netflix streaming a movie on their tv is as simple as just clicking play on Stranger Things and sending a GET request to a single server